Morgan May Treuil [00:00:00]:
Welcome back to Am I doing this right? Wait, you can pull it closer to you.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:05]:
Yeah, wait, put it a little closer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:06]:
We are your hosts, Morgan and Leslie.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:09]:
That's right. We have a very special guest.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:11]:
The most special guest. This is a first for us. This guest is Liberty Hopkins, and we are obsessed with her. But what's special about her, other than her just being a special person, is that she is our first 17 year old guest and she's here having just freshly graduated from high school, which is insane. Two days ago.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:33]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:00:34]:
Friday.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:35]:
That's crazy. Yeah. Welcome to the podcast, Liberty.
Liberty Hopkins [00:00:39]:
Thanks for having me, guys.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:40]:
She is an avid listener.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:42]:
She's like, we were walking here and she's like. We're like, do you listen? And she's like, oh, yeah, every episode. And we're like, wow, what's your favorite episode? And she's like, well, I mean, like, I listen. I listen when it's on. Or like, we kind of caught her and then she.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:58]:
But. But you. You did tell. Valid favorite episode that you had.
Liberty Hopkins [00:01:02]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:02]:
Anyways, we believe you.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:03]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:04]:
But Liberty, welcome to the podcast. We're so happy that you're here.
Liberty Hopkins [00:01:06]:
Thanks for having me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:08]:
Before we get into any of the stuff about you, because we want to introduce you. You came with your unpopular opinion.
Liberty Hopkins [00:01:14]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:14]:
And we are really excited to hear it.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:16]:
Yes.
Liberty Hopkins [00:01:19]:
Well, I would have to say my unpopular opinion would be 6, 7. That trend is overrated.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:28]:
Okay, wait, explain. Cause we're old. So explain what six seven is to us.
Liberty Hopkins [00:01:33]:
Okay, so six, seven. It started in 2024. December 2024. It was this artist who made a song. It's called Doo Doo 67. And then in March 2025, it just became like high school. And kids, like middle schoolers started like, getting into like the tenth. Dude, do six, seven.
Liberty Hopkins [00:01:54]:
And then after that, it, like, started fading the end of 2025. But then adults started using it. So then now it's overrated because adults started using it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:05]:
Yes. Also the fact that she has, like, timestamps. Did you.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:08]:
I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:08]:
Presentation on this for class.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:10]:
Now if you turn your attention to the screen.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:13]:
Why do you know the date?
Leslie Johnston [00:02:14]:
I had no idea 67 was from a song.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:17]:
Yeah, it started from a song.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:18]:
Do do six seven.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:20]:
Do do six seven.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:21]:
Why do they do this when they do it?
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:23]:
Oh, yeah, that is a very good question.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:25]:
So basically, for anybody who's not following, it's. It comes from a song.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:29]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:29]:
But the trend has become that people will randomly just like, say, six, seven, but they do it with, like, this little hand.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:35]:
Motion. Yes. So TikTok made a sound out of doo doo six, seven. And then some art. Like the. Whoever made it started doing the Dudu 67. But then now people are, like, using it, like, oh, six, seven this, six, seven that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:50]:
But like, it doesn't mean anything.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:51]:
No, it does not mean anything.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:52]:
Even the song doesn't mean anything.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:54]:
It does not mean anything.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:55]:
Yeah, so that didn't mean anything.
Liberty Hopkins [00:02:57]:
That's what I'm saying.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:58]:
Well, and then. Okay, here's my rebuttal. Do you think that adults ruined it, or do you think that the elementary school kids ruined it? Because I feel like they all started doing it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:07]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:08]:
And then if you're a teenager, I would imagine you're like, I'm not. Second graders are all about sex sack.
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:12]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:12]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:13]:
And then you're like, maybe they ruined it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:15]:
Well, for me, I would tell you have to say it's funny seeing like a little sixth grader going, six, seven, you know, but then adults, like, what are we dealing with? We're in the big two six. Why are you still saying it?
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:27]:
The big two six. That's 2026.
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:29]:
Yes, that's 2026.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:30]:
I feel like you need to educate us a little bit. Tell us what's. What's current right now. Like, what's what? What are the things people are saying right now? So we know what to say on this podcast?
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:37]:
Yeah, well, that's a very good question. You're gonna have to take it up with Brian Hopkins. He has a whole video of him making brain rot videos.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:46]:
Wait, this is your dad?
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:47]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:47]:
And he has. He makes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:48]:
He was passing our campus.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:51]:
Yes.
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:52]:
He would kill me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:53]:
Wait, what does he do?
Leslie Johnston [00:03:54]:
He.
Liberty Hopkins [00:03:54]:
So, like, I made like a list of brain rods and then he like,
Leslie Johnston [00:03:58]:
just goes, wait, what's a brain rot?
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:00]:
A brain rot.
Liberty Hopkins [00:04:01]:
So brain rot is 6, 7. It means nothing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:03]:
So it's just like phrase.
Liberty Hopkins [00:04:05]:
Yeah, it's like phrases that people say. So like, mama girl behind you. And then he, like, said it. And he's like, looks behind him. No one's behind me. Or like, you ate. And he's like, I ate donut this morning. Yeah, like, what? What are you saying?
Leslie Johnston [00:04:22]:
That's hilarious. So what is like, hot off the press, things people are saying?
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:27]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:27]:
That maybe not everybody knows. Oh, we heard this. We heard one today. I have a funk tonight.
Liberty Hopkins [00:04:34]:
Oh, we have a function tonight.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:36]:
But they just say function.
Liberty Hopkins [00:04:37]:
Yeah, well, I say function. But then, like, now people are like shortening every phrases to be like, yeah, funk.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:45]:
So wait. Yeah, so, okay, so function what else? What is what?
Liberty Hopkins [00:04:48]:
Yeah, that's a gigi.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:51]:
Yeah. What are people saying right now?
Leslie Johnston [00:04:53]:
Brain rot.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:54]:
Things off screen, basically.
Liberty Hopkins [00:04:58]:
Like, muddy. Oh, my.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:00]:
Dead.
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:00]:
Oh, that's my new favorite one. Mudded is like you're muted.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:05]:
Wait, mudded.
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:06]:
Mudded.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:07]:
Like M U T E Muted.
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:10]:
Yeah, muted, but mudded.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:11]:
Mudded.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:12]:
Mud.
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:12]:
Every single time I ask somebody, my dad or my mom, and then they don't answer me, I'm like, am I mudded?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:19]:
Oh, my gosh. So you're. It's like, can anybody hear me?
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:24]:
Like, am I muted?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:25]:
Like, why mudded?
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:26]:
I don't know.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:28]:
Ally, what do you have?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:30]:
Ali's too old now. How old are you? Ally, how old are you? She's 21 and she doesn't know what's going on anymore.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:38]:
Is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:38]:
Are people still saying you ate?
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:40]:
Yeah, you ate, you ate.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:41]:
Or another one I heard is like, clocky.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:44]:
What's that?
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:45]:
Clock A is like you did a wall. Done. Like you good job. It's like a. But like, we changed eight.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:51]:
Wait, clock it?
Liberty Hopkins [00:05:53]:
Yeah. Or like, you, like, say you roasted someone. You clocked it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:57]:
You clocked it.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:58]:
And then this. I see Haley Bieber doing this a lot.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:00]:
What is this?
Leslie Johnston [00:06:01]:
She's too old now.
Liberty Hopkins [00:06:02]:
Yeah. Clapping. I don't know. It's like clapping. Nobody does this. It's just like, clock.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:08]:
Oh, yeah, I've seen. You haven't seen that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:10]:
Who's the king or queen that one day wakes up and they're like, hey, guys, everybody. This is the new thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:15]:
I know. I'm like, is there an email that goes out?
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:17]:
Or like, who's doing this?
Liberty Hopkins [00:06:20]:
I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:21]:
Are people still saying slay queen?
Liberty Hopkins [00:06:23]:
No, I haven't really heard that one.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:26]:
She's like, that was 20, 21 things
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:28]:
that we used to say. We were growing up. Swag.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:32]:
Hella.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:33]:
Hella.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:33]:
People said hella a lot.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:35]:
Yeah, hella this, hella that.
Liberty Hopkins [00:06:36]:
Swag.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:37]:
Yeah, swag. Honestly, I don't think we said as many things as you guys do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:43]:
Smack.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:44]:
Oh, talk smack.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:45]:
Talk smack. Or like, talk smack. Or have a tickle my throat. There was one other one. I can't remember anyways. But yeah, these are education.
Liberty Hopkins [00:06:58]:
One day I'll have to show you guys the video of Brian. Brian Hopkins.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:01]:
I know we're gonna watch that right after this. So your opinion.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:04]:
6, 7. Amongst other kind of trends like that. It's, like, very overrated.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:09]:
And the old people ruined it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:10]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:11]:
I don't know any old people that are saying it, but maybe I'm just not With.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:14]:
I feel like they maybe.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:15]:
I'm glad I'm not with people who
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:16]:
say they mean us, I think.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:19]:
No, that's what I mean. I don't ever say it. Do you say it?
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:22]:
I probably tried it a couple times, but I think they mean, like, not like they mean, like. People in their 20s are ruining it.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:29]:
Oh, well, I'm good then. They're in my 30s.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:31]:
What do you think? Oh, Gabe Foster, what age is old to you?
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:36]:
Wow. Putting me on the spot like that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:37]:
No, it's okay. You can say it.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:39]:
Yeah, you can say it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:39]:
We won't be offended.
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:43]:
I would have to say 40. Like, 40.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:49]:
Okay. 43.
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:51]:
44.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:52]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:52]:
We're still young, too.
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:53]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:53]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:54]:
Okay.
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:54]:
Because you're not that much older than me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:56]:
Right. Do you feel like we're cool?
Leslie Johnston [00:07:58]:
Thank you.
Liberty Hopkins [00:07:58]:
I feel like you're cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:59]:
No, you can tell us. Honestly.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:00]:
No, I feel like you're cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:01]:
Okay, good.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:02]:
Like, we win. But not cool enough to say no. Mudded.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:05]:
I'm like, if I said, well, now
Leslie Johnston [00:08:08]:
you graduated high school, so now it's like, you're old.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:11]:
Now you're old.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:13]:
Welcome. 17.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:15]:
Oh, my gosh.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:16]:
Mudded is like. I don't care if anybody says that. But it's just six. Seven is dragged.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:21]:
Yes, it is.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:22]:
It's too much. It's way too.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:25]:
Yes. Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:26]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:26]:
I agree.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:27]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:27]:
Wow.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:27]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:28]:
There's a lesson in.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:29]:
I know. Do you have another unpopular opinion, or was that your one. One on popular opinion?
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:33]:
I mean, we can. I have another one.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:35]:
I do. I feel like I want to hear another one.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:37]:
All right. My other one would have to be a. The beach.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:41]:
What about. What about it?
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:42]:
Well, I just do not like the beach. I don't like the beach, too.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:49]:
What do you not like about it?
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:50]:
I hate the sand. I hate the water stinks. You come out with, like, coral reefs. Like, why?
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:56]:
Why coral reefs.
Liberty Hopkins [00:08:57]:
Oh, coral reefs. Seaweed. Oh, yeah. You come out with seaweed.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:03]:
Come on.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:04]:
Coral reefs. We might get, like, a rest.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:06]:
Yes.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:07]:
You come out with, like, seaweed. You're looking like the Little Mermaid, but like, the bad Little Mermaid.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:12]:
Bad Little Mermaid, exactly.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:13]:
But, like. Yeah. And they were not kidding when they said, do you want a sandwich? Because you have sand everywhere.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:19]:
Yeah. So?
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:20]:
It's just so gross. I do not like that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:22]:
So funny.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:23]:
We were literally talking about this yesterday. Morgan hates the beach day.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:25]:
To me, it's not relaxing to be out there stuck. Now, I will say this. I love a water view.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:32]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:33]:
Like, put me on a balcony somewhere, on a patio. Overlooking.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:38]:
Yes. Water. As long as I'm not in there, I'm fine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:41]:
I just don't want to be in it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:42]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:42]:
I also got stung by a jellyfish when we were at the beach, like, however many days ago.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:47]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:47]:
And I feel like. Which. That's happened to me before. It was a dead jellyfish, so it wasn't that bad. But to me, I'm like, why are we in such a hazardous marine life place?
Leslie Johnston [00:09:58]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:59]:
That stuff doesn't make me.
Liberty Hopkins [00:09:59]:
I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:00]:
I hate the beach. I agree.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:01]:
That's so funny.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:02]:
I know.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:02]:
Okay. Great. On Popular. A pool.
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:06]:
Yeah. I don't like the pool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:07]:
Why?
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:07]:
I don't know. It's just.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:09]:
Do you like to swim?
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:10]:
I do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:11]:
But you just don't like things that you swim in.
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:14]:
I like the lake.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:16]:
I like the lake, too. I would much rather be.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:17]:
You like a lake more than a pool?
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:19]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:20]:
Yeah. Well, I think we would, too. Probably. Like, you can.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:23]:
No, I do, but I feel like if you don't like the beach, the lake is most similar to a beach, so it's funny that you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:30]:
Sand is the thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:31]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:32]:
It's like the dirtiness and the textures.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:34]:
But lakes can be so gross.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:36]:
But I get out of the lake, not here. I feel like in California, lakes are beautiful.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:42]:
Definitely more than Texas water, lakes, and anything else.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:45]:
There is a lake in Texas.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:46]:
There's tons of lakes, but they're all disgusting. Yeah. I think it's the textures and the feel of the beach. Like, you can't relax when there's sand everywhere.
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:54]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:54]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:10:55]:
And then when you get out of the pool, you feel so dry.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:59]:
So then it's just, like chlorine.
Liberty Hopkins [00:11:01]:
Yes. So then it's just, like, gross. But the lake, I don't know. It just makes you feel different.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:06]:
I love.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:07]:
The lake is good.
Liberty Hopkins [00:11:08]:
It just makes you feel.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:08]:
Well, y'.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:09]:
All.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:09]:
Y' all are boat people. Like, y' all like to go boating. Y' all like to be on the
Leslie Johnston [00:11:11]:
lake, so that's fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:13]:
I agree with you.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:14]:
So fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:15]:
Okay, Liberty, back up for us.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:17]:
We.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:18]:
We admire you for a lot of reasons. If I could. If we could capture Liberty in one word. It's like, you are. You're light. You just radiate joy, and you're kind and you're inclusive. You're also really cool. And everybody loves you and wants to be around you, but you don't use that to push people away or to, like, elevate yourself.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:39]:
You serve. You jump in. You're everywhere all the time. Everyone loves you. So that's what we think about you. We think everybody on this podcast is gonna love you, but we wanna hear about all kinds of stuff. But starting with you. Tell us a little bit about you, who you are, what your family is, like, everything that you wanna share.
Liberty Hopkins [00:11:58]:
Alrighty. Well, I'm Liberty. But fun fact, before I get into, like, the whole entire craziness, when I first got adopted, my parents took my real name and then used as my middle name and then gave me the name Liberty.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:16]:
Okay.
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:17]:
I think. I think they gave me the name Liberty because they also gave me my birthday. Like, the government made my birthday July 2nd.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:26]:
Oh, okay, cool.
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:28]:
So what, like, you know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:30]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:31]:
So, fun fact. I don't know how old I am. They, like, gave me. They just, like, took an estimate, like. Like how old I am.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:38]:
Like, a doctor evaluated you and was like this?
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:40]:
No, not even that. They just looked at me, and I
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:42]:
think that looked at me, so I
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:45]:
think they looked at me and was like, it's giving. She's four years old.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:49]:
Oh, wow.
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:50]:
Yeah. So I don't really know my real birthday.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:53]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:53]:
But. Yeah. So my real name is Therese.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:56]:
Uhhuh.
Liberty Hopkins [00:12:57]:
Liberty Therese. We're not gonna say the last. Okay. I'll just say Liberty Therese Mukonga Hopkins.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:03]:
Mukonga.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:03]:
Yeah, Mukonga.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:04]:
Wow.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:04]:
I kind of love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:05]:
I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:06]:
I love.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:08]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:08]:
Okay. Wait, so you're 17?
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:10]:
Yes. Well, we think we're 17.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:12]:
Yeah. Nobody knows.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:14]:
Do you think you're 17 or do you have some, like, inkling, like, oh, maybe I'm actually 18 or actually I'm 6.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:21]:
Whatever.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:22]:
Well, I feel like I should be. Like, I should have been a freshman in college last year.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:29]:
Okay.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:30]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:30]:
So you probably feel a year or two older than you are. Then we say that you are. Then people say you are.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:37]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:37]:
Okay, that's great.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:38]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:38]:
So you were adopted.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:39]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:40]:
Tell us about that.
Liberty Hopkins [00:13:41]:
I was adopted in 2015 from Congo. I came from Congo, Africa. I had six biological siblings. I had a brother and four other siblings, but I only got adopted with three other siblings because the other siblings of mine were. Were too old to be adopted. So I came here with Gigi, Jada, and Karis. Those are my biological siblings.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:12]:
So.
Liberty Hopkins [00:14:12]:
Yeah. So it was a crazy adoption. Yeah. So I get. My mom tells me stories, but, like, when she first met me, I would, like, slap her, kick her, bite her, and then I'll look at me. Everybody says I'm the sweetest person. Yeah. The table was as turned.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:31]:
Do you remember that time?
Liberty Hopkins [00:14:33]:
Yeah, I remember a little Bit.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:34]:
Okay.
Liberty Hopkins [00:14:35]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:35]:
So you remember meeting your parents?
Liberty Hopkins [00:14:36]:
Yes, I remember meeting them the first time. I didn't really. I was not a big fan because, like, it was a whole new change, you know?
Leslie Johnston [00:14:43]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:44]:
So what was the context that you met them in? Were you like. Did you know they were trying to adopt you?
Liberty Hopkins [00:14:49]:
No, I just thought they were because it took two years to get us. So they would come from Montana to come visit us. So like, it was here and there. So to me, it felt like they're just here for like, ah, like a season, like, checking the things out. Like, I didn't feel like they were going to adopt me, you know, because, like, I felt like. Because they kept coming and then leaving, coming and leaving. So I was like, well, this is the new life.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:16]:
Were you in like a. Like a. An adoption?
Liberty Hopkins [00:15:19]:
Yeah, I was in an orphanage.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:21]:
Okay. In Congo. And then with all of your siblings? Yes. And you were there for like, as long as you remember, or do you remember life before the orphanage?
Liberty Hopkins [00:15:29]:
I remember life before the orphanage. We lived in a mud house. My dad loves telling the story of us living in a mud house. So we lived in a mud house made out of, like, mud tree branches. So, like, it wasn't like, the most like, you know, and then people who, like, know me now, they say I'm spoiled, but, like, if they really know me. But fun fact, I usually don't sleep in, but, like, when I was in my old house, in the mud house, I slept in through this big storm and the house fell on me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:09]:
What?
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:09]:
Yeah, Everybody left the house, but the house fell on me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:13]:
Do you remember?
Leslie Johnston [00:16:14]:
You remember waking up?
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:16]:
That's insane.
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:17]:
What did you do? I just froze. My sister Jada, who, like, sleeps 20, was up before me, and then she was like, liberty, you got to get up. And I was like, yeah. And then the house fell on me. Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:31]:
Oh, my God. That's amazing.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:33]:
So you were how old when you went to the orphanage?
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:37]:
Couldn't even tell you.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:38]:
Yeah, that.
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:38]:
They said I was four.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:40]:
Okay.
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:40]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:41]:
Wow.
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:41]:
So, yeah. So then that whole entire thing happened. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:46]:
So you get adopted and then you're immediately moved to the United States?
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:52]:
No.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:52]:
So I.
Liberty Hopkins [00:16:55]:
So the. After the house fell on me, we were, like, rebuilding a new house at a break. So then.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:01]:
Were you injured?
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:03]:
No, no, I've never broken anything. I've never broken anything.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:08]:
House on top of me.
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:09]:
Yeah. Just a house on top of me.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:10]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:10]:
But, well, when the house fell, we were rebuilding a new house made out of brick, so then the storm wouldn't like, hit well in that process, that's when, like, things started going bad in Africa. So then that's when my parents, like, put us in the orphanage.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:26]:
Gotcha.
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:26]:
So then. Yeah, that's what I remember. And then once we were in the orphanage, we. After my parents got us. They got us. And my sister Gigi had malaria, so we were in Washington for.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:43]:
She's, like, unfazed.
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:44]:
I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:45]:
I look over at her, and she's like, so.
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:49]:
Yeah, so she had malaria, and we were, like, in Washington getting, like, the hospital, like, treatment.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:56]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:17:57]:
So we went from Africa to Washington, and then we met up with these friends of ours that got adopted before us who, like, were very good family friends when we're in the orphanage.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:08]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:18:09]:
So we met up with them, and we went to the zoo after Gigi was. Well, it was so fun. And then after that, I moved to Montana. And I remember, like, the first time it rained. We were driving, we flew, and then we get down. I met my whole entire family. And then we drove to Montana, and it was raining. And then I saw snow for the first time ever.
Liberty Hopkins [00:18:33]:
It was so beautiful. And then I walk into the house, and then my parents showed me my room. It was me and Jada. It was the most prettiest princess's room ever. Bunk beds. It was so pink, so pretty. And then Gigi and Caris had a bedroom. It was like a ballerina bedroom.
Liberty Hopkins [00:18:54]:
They never slept in it. Yeah, like, yeah, they never slept in the room. So, yeah, Kara slept with me. Juju slept with my parents. So it was very, like, fun. So, yeah, I lived in Montana for a little bit. I went to school there.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:10]:
And.
Liberty Hopkins [00:19:12]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:12]:
Wow. What was. What was like, the culture shock? Like, I mean, I know you were so little, but, like, you obviously remember a good amount of it. What was, like, that experience? Like, when you're in a whole new country, a whole new setting with a.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:27]:
You know, how I would make friends, and it's like, people are. People live differently. They have different, like, cultural norms, and you're having to learn all of it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:19:36]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:36]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:19:36]:
Well, when I, like, I don't know, my mom told me I was, like, a very social person. So, like, once we got, like, our bond together, we, like, became very close. She, like, she's, like, one of my best friend. So, like, we, like, became very close, and we just got this bond. And I don't know, I just, like, if you really want to make friends, you have to put yourself out there. You can't just, like, you know, be very shy. You you can be shy, but, like, if you expect friends, you. You can't just, like, sit in the corner.
Liberty Hopkins [00:20:10]:
So, like, when I went to Montana, When I went. I was in school in Montana. I just tried to, like, be in everything. I was in hip hop class. I don't know, I was very social. I became friends with my teachers and. I don't know, I just had, like, a bunch of friends. So.
Liberty Hopkins [00:20:32]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:33]:
This is such a side. It's kind of a side tangent, but I think it would be good to hear this from your perspective. You seem like you are friends with everybody. What would you say? Or, like, if you had to. If you had to boil it down to, like, one or two things that you feel like are essential for making friends, what would you say? Like, how do you. How do you do it in a way that makes you friends with so many people?
Leslie Johnston [00:20:55]:
Good.
Liberty Hopkins [00:20:56]:
Okay. How do I do it?
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:59]:
I'm putting you on the spot so you can think about it. But.
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:02]:
Well, I would have to say my big, like, key of me making all these friends is my dad. I would have to say, like, I don't know. He says there's no favorite, but I feel like I'm the favorite. Like, I do. I would have to say, like, I do almost everything with my dad. He's like. He's like one of my best friends. Like, literally what you can ask anybody and they would tell you, like, Liberty is like.
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:33]:
I'm like a little miniature of him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:35]:
So do you mean that you, like, you learn how to make friends with him?
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:38]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:39]:
And what does he do that you feel like?
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:41]:
I don't know. He's like a very social person. He goes out of his way, like, talking to everyone.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:48]:
Yes. Like, no one's a stranger.
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:50]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:51]:
So approachable.
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:52]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:52]:
He's never likeable.
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:53]:
Yeah, yeah. He's like, like, I don't know how he make friends out of the country.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:57]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:21:58]:
I feel like he has friends everywhere.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:00]:
Yeah, but.
Liberty Hopkins [00:22:01]:
And I feel like me traveling with him, like, when he would go to Santa Rosa, I wake up at 3am in the morning to drive with him to Santa Rosa. And he, like, introduced me to all, like, his friends and stuff like that. So, like, I don't know, I feel like my big key is, like, my dad because, like, he knows all these people and he gets, like, me connected with them. But another from my personal experience, I would have to say, I don't know, always having a smile on your face. Everybody always compliments me about my smile. And they say it's like the sweetest smile ever.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:38]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:22:39]:
So, like, I don't know, being very, like, approachable. Like, being very kind.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:45]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:22:45]:
And I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:46]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is true. You don't have, like, resting face. You really don't. Like, you always have a smile.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:53]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:53]:
And I feel like you're. You're a non intimidate, non intimidating person.
Liberty Hopkins [00:22:58]:
Really?
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:59]:
Do you feel like people tell you you're intimidating?
Liberty Hopkins [00:23:01]:
All, like, all my friends, they like, okay. But, like, it's also school. They tell. I meet them at school and they're like, well, in the hallways when I'm walking, like, who's walking and going to class?
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:14]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:23:14]:
Like, let's be for real.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:16]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:23:16]:
So, like, they. Before we become friends, they're like. They always tell me, like, liberty, I was always intimidated about you. Like, you're so scary. And they also told me that because of, like, the way, like, my body is, like, they're like, you have all these muscles.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:31]:
You are ripped. Yes, you're ripped.
Liberty Hopkins [00:23:33]:
Never hit the gym in my life. Yeah, God blessed me. But, like, they always.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:40]:
Oh, my gosh. I love that.
Liberty Hopkins [00:23:41]:
They always tell me, like, you're so, like, big, like, you could beat me up. So then they're, like, afraid of me before they even get to meet me. Like, but then after that, they're like, you're like, the most sweetest person ever. And I'm like, I know.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:55]:
Like, I'm just like a teddy bear.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:57]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:57]:
Yeah. I love it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:23:58]:
But, yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:59]:
I also love how close you are with both of your parents. What do you feel like growing up, like, from when you actually, like, arrived kind of with them? What do you think, like, are things you did to help make you guys close and things they did?
Liberty Hopkins [00:24:15]:
Hmm. That's a very good question. Wow.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:20]:
Well, it's sweet. I'm like, I love that you talk. Both your parents, you're like, oh. I'm like, they're like my best friends, which is so sweet.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:26]:
And not every teenager and not.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:28]:
Yeah. Not everybody feels that way for me.
Liberty Hopkins [00:24:33]:
What? Like, I told you, me and my mom were not very close when we first met. But, like, that was, like, the first time. It was like, I went through. So traumatic. Like, yeah, my life before was traumatic. So, like, I, like, had this, like, guard up, like, this wall, and she always, like, she never gave up on me to try to break it down. Like, every single time I would get in trouble and she would push me and put me in timeout, I would, like, smack her. But then she would, like, pull me into a hug.
Liberty Hopkins [00:25:00]:
So then after that feeling, I felt like she actually really cares about me because, like, in the orphanage, they do not care about you.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:09]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:25:09]:
Like, it's just crazy. So, like, after that, I was like, wow, she really does care about me. And then for my dad, I don't know, we just, like, we hit it off on the first call.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:20]:
Yeah, that's cool.
Liberty Hopkins [00:25:21]:
Yeah, we. Him taking me to school every single day is, like, our time to, like, bond or, like, going, I don't know, Starbucks every day, like, going on a drive. I don't know. We just, like, hit it off very well.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:35]:
That's cool. I love that. I love what you said about your mom, because I feel like all of us especially, like, you when you're like, I had kind of a traumatic younger childhood that, like, I feel like everybody needs that point in life where they meet somebody, whether it's a parent or somebody who you're like, I'm pushing you away. But even my pushing you away, you're still coming closer. Like, almost like, you have to have that moment of, like, will you love the worst version of me? And, like, I want to be able to do this stuff and say these things, even though you don't actually want to. It's like you almost need someone to prove to you, like, no, I will love you even in your worst moments, which is really cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:14]:
What do you feel like? Because I want to transition now to talking about what's coming up for you, because this is something that we get asked a lot about on this podcast, is how to navigate the big transitions of life, specifically for young adults who are entering into a new city, a school, they're going to college, they want to make friends. It's all this stuff, and it's a lot of changes. But I would say, going back to childhood, just for a second, what would you say is the thing that you were taught or was instilled in you, whether that was from the traumatic experiences you went through or otherwise that you feel, like, prepared you so well for. For this next season you're about to accomplish. Like, what did you learn amongst all of that hardship that's gonna help you navigate adulthood?
Liberty Hopkins [00:27:05]:
I would have to say I learned patient, because I'm not. I was really not a very patient person. Like, high school, like, middle school, elementary. I just wanted to go, go, go. And, like. Like, when. Like, when I was younger, my mom was like, you know, I was not very patient with her, but, like, once I learned that, it just, like, helped me very well. Like, very much.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:32]:
Yeah, that's cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:34]:
What Are you. So you're going to college now?
Liberty Hopkins [00:27:37]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:37]:
You just graduated. You're going to college.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:39]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:39]:
And you actually had kind of like, a shift in plans. Like, you were. You had one thing you were gonna do, and then that totally flipped kind of at the last minute. Are you allowed to say what you're doing?
Liberty Hopkins [00:27:48]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:48]:
Go for it.
Liberty Hopkins [00:27:49]:
Well, I was actually high school. I was so stressed out because I was like, where am I going to go? Where is God, like, going to take me? So I had, like, all these, like, colleges planned out, and I'm like, you're my top option. Da, da, da, da, da. And then everything just, like, flipped.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:08]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:28:08]:
I really did not want to stay in town. I wanted to, like, get out and, like, find, like, who I really am and not, like. Because what I struggled with the most was, like, the identity as, oh, I'm Pastor Brian's daughter. Because every single time everybody introduces me or, like, they meet me, it's like, oh, you're Brian Hopkins daughter. So, like, that, like, took, like, a big heart in me. So, like, I was like, I'm not just like, yeah, I'm very proud that Bryan Hopkins is my dad, but, like, I'm my own person, too. So, like, I want people to know, like, who I am. So, like, I really wanted to get out of town and, like, go find who I really am.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:50]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:28:50]:
But then I feel. I felt like God really wanted me to stay here. And, like, yeah, people are gonna always know. Even if I go to, like, GCU or something, people are gonna just be like, that's Ryan Hopkins daughter. Like, anywhere I go. But, like, I just felt like God really wanted me to stay here.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:07]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:29:07]:
So then Coach Alexis from Jessup has been reaching out since, I want to say, Summer, and I've, like, just pushed her off because, like, I did not want to stay in town. But then it was, like, close to the end of school, I was like, why not just go to Jessup? Like, we got a scholarship. Why not just go for it? So then I decided to sign with Coach Alexis for stunt. So I'm going to Jessup University for stunt, and I'm doing sideline cheer. And then second to last day of school, a coach from Bayside of, like, Bayside Adventure, but, like, Adventure Christian School reached out and was like, hey, like, I hear you're, like, a cheerleader, and we would love for you to come coach our team. So I was like, whoa. Like, really? God knew what he was doing.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:03]:
Yes.
Liberty Hopkins [00:30:03]:
So then I was like, absolutely. So now I'm coaching cheer For Adventure Christian school.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:11]:
So we were like, you got like a full time job and. And school after, right? Like, literally, it's like you just graduated on Friday. I was like, amazing.
Liberty Hopkins [00:30:20]:
I was like, after high school, I'm going to be more like, chill, just dress up, cheer stunt, and then I have a job.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:27]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:30:27]:
So like, always keep.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:29]:
You know what I love about that? What you said is you were like. I felt like God was calling me to stay here, which I feel like a lot of times people right out of high school, they have this, like, it's the social norm to, like, go out, like, go out of town, do something different, or just like, you just feel like the world tells you to do one thing, which for somebody else, that's totally God's plan for them. But I love that you're like, something told me that God wanted me here. And it's like you trusting that instead of just, oh, I want to do whatever I want to do. You watch as, like, God lines up so many things. So I feel like for our listeners, it's a good reminder, like, whether you're graduating high school or college, it's like, list, like, genuinely listen to what God wants you to do. And if you don't know exactly what that is, just like, move in the direction that feels the most honoring to him and the one that sits well with you.
Liberty Hopkins [00:31:19]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:19]:
And then watch, like, God unfold stuff. Because I think sometimes it's like, I think when I graduated high school, I was like, I need to go to this school, because I think everyone wants me to go there. And it was great. But I don't. I do kind of feel like, man, did I really listen to God, like, where he wanted me to go, or was I just doing what everybody else wanted me to do?
Liberty Hopkins [00:31:38]:
And that was one of the hard things I struggled with because I wanted to go to gcu because I already knew people there. And like, all half of, like, my school is going to jcu. So I was like, I'll be with the same people, you know, kind of like, yeah, yeah. But, like, God knows me very well and he knows that I like meeting new people. Yeah, I love new, like, everything. So, like, going to dress up, not knowing anyone. It's like, very, like. Because, like, high school, you'll be, like, friends with some of the people, but, like, you also need room to grow and meet new people.
Liberty Hopkins [00:32:13]:
And that's what I'm very excited for.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:14]:
Jessup, what are you the most nervous about with this life transition?
Liberty Hopkins [00:32:19]:
I think I'm gonna be a little Nervous with like the scheduling.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:22]:
Okay.
Liberty Hopkins [00:32:22]:
Because like I have school, I have my own practice. And then going to coach is gonna be a little like, I did it in high school and I'll do it again.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:32]:
You're kind of jump starting into adulthood in a way that's not usual because a lot of people have the adjustment of having to go to college. All of a sudden of a sudden you have 8am classes, you've got a full schedule, you got activities on the side, and it's a whole thing to manage your own schedule. Like, no longer is anybody making sure that you wake up. No longer is everybody making sure that you get to the places you need to go. It's all of a sudden very much on you.
Liberty Hopkins [00:32:57]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:58]:
Now you're not just doing that, but you're actually adding like a job and all this other stuff on top of that. And you're going to be responsible for all of it. It's like a very nerve wracking thing. But this season of life prepares you so much for what's to come. And I look back at college and I got a dance degree and an education minor. And my job now involves a lot of things that I Learned, but not 100 of it. But I think college was so much more about the experience of growing up and going. Like it's the practice of going up, growing up and going, learning how to listen to the voice of the Lord for yourself, which is such a cool thing because you had in your mind this idea of what you wanted to do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:44]:
Then God kind of like subtly whispers something else. And then now you've had experience in pivoting towards what God wants. And these are the kinds of things that are so necessary to your young adult formation of your spiritual life and walk. And I think what's cool too is like you, there's gonna be really fun parts to the next however many years that you spend in school. And there's also gonna be really hard parts too that you don't even know to anticipate. But I think what's cool is like all the stuff that makes you nervous. So for all the girls and guys that are listening, that you're nervous about roommates, you're nervous about classes, you're nervous about making friends, you're nervous about moving to a new place, you're nervous, you're nervous, you're nervous for all of those things, I would say if you're feeling nervous about them and you're gonna have to do something hard and out of your comfort zone, settle in, because that's the whole point of this next season for you? So if it makes you nervous, that's actually a good thing, because the tragedy here would be getting through college and having done nothing that pushed you out of your comfort zone, having done nothing hard, nothing that was risky, because then what did you learn? You know, like, everything about the next four years or five years or however long you go is meant to challenge you. And that's the point.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:58]:
Like, it's preparing you for what comes next. Everything in life prepares you. So the stuff that makes you nervous, that's, like, a good sign.
Liberty Hopkins [00:35:05]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:05]:
It's meant to make you nervous. This is a good thing. Yeah. So that's just my little college tangent,
Leslie Johnston [00:35:11]:
but I love it for our last question, and then we'll wrap up.
Liberty Hopkins [00:35:14]:
All right.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:14]:
What would be, like, your one piece of advice for other high school students who, like, just are graduating or even, like, people who are younger and they're going into high school or people graduating college? Like, what would be a piece of advice that, like, you either have gotten from somebody else or that you're taking kind of into college? It's a broad question, but.
Liberty Hopkins [00:35:34]:
Well, my piece of advice would be to, like, everything's gonna come at you really fast. Starting high school as a freshman, you're gonna, like, try to find your identity and where you belong then for, like, same thing in college, because you're gonna be in college and, like, you're starting freshman year in college. So, like, you're. It's, like starting high school all over again. So, like, you're gonna have to, like, rebuild those friendships. Totally. Find everything. I would have to, like, say, be in the present.
Liberty Hopkins [00:36:07]:
Like, take your time, be calm, and, like, things happen for a reason.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:12]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:36:13]:
So, like, don't, like, try to rush everything. Because what I really did in high school was I rushed, like, trying to be an adult and, like, trying to be, like, ready to be out of, like, high school. But then after graduation, it was just like, wow, this is it. Four years went by so fast, Literally in a blink of an eye.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:35]:
Yes.
Liberty Hopkins [00:36:36]:
And it was like, I was like, wow, I'm an adult now. It just, like, feels so weird.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:43]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:36:44]:
But just be present, be in the moment, and, like, just be calm.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:48]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:36:49]:
And I like that. Whatever happens, happens.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:51]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:51]:
Wait. I have one bonus question. I'm so sorry, because I think this is important for listeners. What are you going to do intentionally to make sure that your faith grows in this next season? Because college tends to be, like, a fork in the road moment for people. You either abandon the faith that your parents brought you up in or you choose to lean into it and make it more your own. What are you planning on doing? Or if you haven't planned this, you can start to think about this. What are you planning on doing to make sure that your love for Jesus only grows in college?
Liberty Hopkins [00:37:24]:
Well, I've been thinking about this because it was like high school. It was for a little bit, but, like, I was like, college is like, where I'm gonna actually, like, you know, but for. Repeat the question again.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:42]:
What are you gonna do this next as you're going into college to make sure that your faith grows instead of, like, falling away from Jesus?
Liberty Hopkins [00:37:50]:
Well, for me, yeah, I'm going to a, like, Christian university, but doesn't mean, like, you know, yeah, they'll have like, chapel, but like, yeah, you choose if you want to go or not. So, like, for me, I would have to say is like, be more present with my Bible and pray every single day and, like, go to young adults and, like, just be like, very present. Be very open minded and, like, listen to what God is, like, trying to tell you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:24]:
Yeah.
Liberty Hopkins [00:38:24]:
So, like, yeah, I think I'm gonna just be more intentional with my Bible and praying.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:29]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:29]:
It's like all of a sudden everything you're involved in. And this is cool because, I mean, you and Leslie can talk about this too, but, like, you go from being a pastor's kid where, like, the church and Bible reading and sermons are kind of baked into your schedule already, and then you graduate and then you get to go off on your own. And it's not that you don't want those things, it's just that they're not baked in anymore. Like, you have to choose to add them in.
Liberty Hopkins [00:38:51]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:51]:
On your own. So I love that you said, like, I got to get more diligent with my Bible reading, my prayer life. Like, what's happening in private. If I'm going to church, it's going to be because I want to wake myself up and go to church. I'm going to young adults ministry. It's because someone's. Because no one's telling me to. I'm doing it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:08]:
And so it's like, decide those things.
Liberty Hopkins [00:39:10]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:11]:
And then make those a priority.
Liberty Hopkins [00:39:12]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:13]:
Because it's so good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:14]:
No one else is going to make it priority for you.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:16]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:17]:
It's great.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:18]:
Liberty, this was awesome.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:19]:
Congrats, Brad. I know.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:21]:
Congratulations. Or excited to cheer you on, guys, when you've got your little cheer squad over at Adventure Christian School. We're coming to a game and watching.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:30]:
Give us some free merch.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:31]:
All right? Yes. And we'll be there.
Liberty Hopkins [00:39:33]:
I'll get you guys. Co coaches.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:36]:
We will be cheering on the cheer team, so that's awesome.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:39]:
Thanks for coming on in, Liberty.
Liberty Hopkins [00:39:40]:
Of course. Thanks for having me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:41]:
And we will see you guys back here next week on Am I doing this right?
Liberty Hopkins [00:39:44]:
Yep.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:44]:
Bye.