Morgan May Treuil [00:00:00]:
Welcome back to Am I Doing This Right? We're your hosts, Morgan and Leslie. Our significant others are on the podcast today.
Leslie [00:00:08]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:08]:
Yep. And mine just said something absolutely wild. Go ahead. What you just said.
Speaker C [00:00:13]:
Which part?
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:14]:
The fact that you've never seen an episode of this podcast.
Speaker D [00:00:16]:
Yeah, of course.
Leslie [00:00:16]:
We asked Benji to start the podcast and he said, I don't know how, because I don't watch this podcast.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:21]:
Do you listen to podcasts at all?
Speaker C [00:00:23]:
I don't. No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:24]:
Okay.
Speaker C [00:00:24]:
It's kind of like a—
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:25]:
Is there a reason why you don't listen to this one specifically? Is it not good content? Is it not good hosts?
Leslie [00:00:31]:
No, honestly, Honestly, I, I think I get it, and you can tell me if this is right or not. When I watch somebody I'm really close to do something, I sometimes get secondhand embarrassed, even if they're really good at it.
Speaker C [00:00:41]:
I feel like I've seen enough content from her though that it's not that. I think it's just, I don't know, it's not good. So it's just not a good quality.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:49]:
You're not interested in what we're talking about?
Speaker C [00:00:50]:
Yeah, I'm not a 17-year-old girl.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:53]:
Our demographic is more—
Leslie [00:00:54]:
Honestly, I hope we reach 17-year-olds. No, me too. That means we would be cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:58]:
Michael, do you listen every week?
Speaker D [00:00:59]:
No, I'd say I probably listen, I don't know, 2 times a month probably.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:04]:
So like you listen to every other episode?
Speaker D [00:01:06]:
If I'm being honest, it's whenever I miss Leslie, I'll listen to the podcast. That's literally the— I feel like when I listen to it most.
Leslie [00:01:11]:
That's sweet.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:12]:
And he's like, Morgan, shut up, stop talking.
Speaker D [00:01:14]:
No, I know, I'm serious. But then there's some, there's some episodes that sometimes when it's about nothing, I'm like, I'll listen to the next one.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:21]:
This is so funny.
Leslie [00:01:22]:
You're in it for more like the deep content.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:26]:
Do you also just like—
Speaker D [00:01:26]:
no, because I listen to those too. But, you know, I hear a lot of it on our phone calls. We live long distance, Leslie and I, right now. And so, yeah, I listen to a lot on the phone calls. So whatever. Yes, whenever it's just—
Leslie [00:01:37]:
Michael has gotten a lot of his friends to listen though, which I—
Speaker D [00:01:40]:
yeah, I'm a huge advocate. That's awesome.
Leslie [00:01:43]:
Big advocate.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:44]:
Waylon just literally threw up all over his shirt. So keep talking. I'm going to get a burp.
Speaker C [00:01:50]:
Oh my gosh.
Leslie [00:01:53]:
This is like a reality TV show right now. Okay, well, as you both— as Michael, you know, and Benji, you will learn— we start this podcast with an unpopular opinion. And so, Michael, I'm gonna have you go first, but I have something special that I want to ask Benji, actually, unless you have an unpopular opinion.
Speaker D [00:02:11]:
To be honest, we found out we were going to do this podcast a little while ago, so I didn't have too much time to think about it.
Leslie [00:02:16]:
He meant a little while like 7 minutes ago.
Speaker D [00:02:18]:
Yeah, and then when Leslie— when I started pitching My hot takes. She said too many of them are inappropriate or just crazy.
Leslie [00:02:27]:
Yeah, like that. That's going to be on—
Speaker D [00:02:28]:
Offensive. Offensive was the word she used.
Leslie [00:02:29]:
It's going to be on Am I Doing This Right? After Dark.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:31]:
After Dark.
Leslie [00:02:33]:
That's our podcast where we get to say whatever we want.
Speaker D [00:02:36]:
But I would say my unpopular opinion would probably be, and this is, I feel like, more unpopular for people from California. So In-N-Out, I feel like when you come to California, at least this is probably the same for Benji and Morgan, is like, held on a, on like a gold platter. Yeah, everyone's like, In-N-Out's like the best thing in the world because it is. This is a super basic one, but I was like, the first time I tried it, maybe the second time I tried it, I was like, this is like fine. Like, I get it, animal style, I'll do all the things Californians say, uh, you should do. But yeah, I was like, this is fine. And then the more and more I started eating it, I was like, okay, maybe I was wrong because I thought it was just fine. And then it started to remind me, I have this one aunt that I love her to death.
Speaker D [00:03:19]:
She's amazing. But she doesn't talk to me too much besides every year on Facebook, she tells me happy birthday. And I started thinking about it. I was like, my aunt is very similar to In-N-Out. She's consistent. Like, she won't talk to me the rest of the year, really. But I know whenever I need something or if no one else wishes me happy birthday, she has wished me happy birthday. And that's the same thing In-N-Out does.
Speaker D [00:03:42]:
It's like, it's so good. Um, it's so consistent and it's there for you when you need a meal. I know it's Leslie. Leslie probably gets a few times a week, probably twice. It's true. I'll say the fries are so bad. The fries are so— what if you do not eat them as they have come out on your plate? Again, even then, most of the time they're like pretty mid. Yeah, I would say the fries are really bad.
Speaker D [00:04:04]:
Animal style makes up for it a little bit.
Leslie [00:04:06]:
I love the fries.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:07]:
I know, but one of our biggest fights is I always want to eat food at home. So I'm like, let's go get In-N-Out and then bring it back to the house.
Speaker D [00:04:15]:
Let's say I do that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:15]:
And he's like, we'll die on the hill of— I will literally, he'll go eat In-N-Out by himself.
Speaker D [00:04:20]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:20]:
And then he'll order me a pickup order to go and then bring it back to the house.
Speaker D [00:04:24]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:24]:
Because the fries are so fragile.
Speaker D [00:04:26]:
No, let's say Leslie and I do the same thing. And every once in a while, I mean, again, when we're together, it's like sometimes we'll have to eat it at home. Sometimes I'm like, we're eating either in the car. She likes to eat in the car a good amount. But, you know, in the car or in the restaurant.
Leslie [00:04:38]:
No, this is what I do. I drive through and then I sit in my car and eat it right after in the parking lot.
Speaker D [00:04:44]:
Why don't you just sit in the restaurant? You have so much more space.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:46]:
Because why would you go into a restaurant and eat by yourself?
Leslie [00:04:49]:
Because there's just like ketchup residue on the table. So does Benji.
Speaker D [00:04:53]:
It's a man thing, I guess. I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:55]:
Y'all have zero social anxiety about going and sitting in a restaurant by yourself.
Speaker D [00:04:59]:
But we're together when we're eating, and I'm like, let's just go sit and eat.
Leslie [00:05:03]:
Oh, but Benji, why do you like sitting in the—
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:04]:
why do you—
Leslie [00:05:05]:
why would you rather go in the restaurant?
Speaker C [00:05:07]:
Uh, I— especially In-N-Out, um, if you don't eat it there, then the bottom of the burger gets soggy, and I don't like soggy bread.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:15]:
That is like a— the other day when you got the burger, that is about the fries.
Speaker C [00:05:19]:
And I just like to be comfortable. Like, it's just like, I want to go sit down, and you want to have a dining experience.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:24]:
My dad was the exact same way. We all be like, can we go through the drive-through? Like, no, we have to go go sit down. It would be like Whataburger trash. Yeah, like it doesn't matter if we're eating this in the restaurant or at home. The spicy ketchup and the honey butter chicken biscuits are good, but it's not like anything else is like quality food. I'm like, we could eat this here or at home, it's all gonna taste like crap. And yet he was like, we're eating this in the restaurant.
Leslie [00:05:46]:
So I went from growing up to that, and then now I just love eating at home. Like, I do too. I like getting it and coming home. But I will say, I got In-N-Out which you should never close the bag. That's the first problem with the fries. If you close the bag and try to keep it warm, it makes everything soggy because it's just like steaming inside there.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:06]:
Yes.
Leslie [00:06:06]:
So you gotta leave the bag open. Yep. But yeah, I got it. I got home the other night and I ate my In-N-Out and I was like, this is terrible.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:13]:
So did you stop eating it?
Leslie [00:06:15]:
No, I was just like very upset because I was like, I could have eaten it. I could have been like Benji and could have eaten this at the restaurant.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:21]:
That is—
Speaker C [00:06:22]:
and if, if I'm gonna pay for it, I want it to be like the best that it can possibly be.
Leslie [00:06:27]:
No, I do.
Speaker C [00:06:27]:
And In-N-Out is not like gumbo where it's like if it sits in the fridge for a couple days, it gets better.
Speaker D [00:06:32]:
It may even get better. Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:33]:
Yes, it's true.
Leslie [00:06:34]:
Both Benji and Michael are from Louisiana.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:37]:
Yeah, actually, we should, we should tell that origin story at some point.
Speaker D [00:06:40]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:06:41]:
Yes, that would be funny.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:42]:
Did you want to ask Benji your question?
Leslie [00:06:43]:
Yeah. Do you? Okay, well, here, I give you two options. Either unpopular opinion Or what is your most unhinged conspiracy theory that you actually believe?
Speaker C [00:06:55]:
I don't have an— I don't have a good answer for either of them, so that's the problem.
Leslie [00:06:58]:
It's like, I feel like a conspiracy—
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:00]:
you have one conspiracy that you're known for, I feel like.
Speaker C [00:07:02]:
Which one?
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:08]:
I can't lip read.
Speaker C [00:07:11]:
I, I guess the one that Morgan is talking about is that I can see how the Earth could be flat. I'm not saying that the Earth is flat. I'm saying like, oh, I could see that there's a possibility that the Earth is flat.
Leslie [00:07:28]:
So you're saying it's not 100% that the Earth is round?
Speaker C [00:07:31]:
I'm open to the opportunity of being wrong that the Earth is round.
Speaker D [00:07:34]:
That's like me with aliens. I'm open to the opportunity of being wrong.
Leslie [00:07:38]:
Where do you stand on aliens?
Speaker C [00:07:45]:
Uh, I stand on the fact that they are real, but they're more—
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:55]:
he's like aliens. Dad is crazy.
Speaker C [00:07:58]:
But they're more of a, uh, spiritual being than just like an extraterrestrial, just things out.
Leslie [00:08:05]:
Interesting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:05]:
I don't think I've ever heard you say that before. Like, you think they're like First time I've heard it too.
Leslie [00:08:09]:
Like demons or—
Speaker C [00:08:10]:
yeah, like the— like the— gosh, like the fallen— yeah, fallen angels and stuff like that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:15]:
Oh shoot, that makes aliens feel way different to me.
Leslie [00:08:19]:
I was imagining the cute little green block things from the amusement parks. That's my picture.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:25]:
This is different. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Leslie [00:08:29]:
Can I ask—
Speaker C [00:08:30]:
so that's—
Leslie [00:08:30]:
so where do they— do they live here, uh, or in space? In your mind?
Speaker C [00:08:35]:
I think they're all over.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:37]:
He's like, one lives in my house. He's right here.
Speaker C [00:08:44]:
That's so funny. I think they're all over. I think they can, without getting too deep into it, because that's not this podcast.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:50]:
Yeah, this isn't that podcast. You could go there, but I don't know if we'd be able to follow you there. But you could go there.
Speaker D [00:08:56]:
I'd go. I'd go. I love a good conspiracy theory.
Speaker C [00:08:59]:
The After Dark podcast, we can go ahead and talk more into it.
Leslie [00:09:03]:
I can— I, I cannot get on board with your alien view, but I can get on board with Benji's.
Speaker D [00:09:07]:
Yeah, we're not going to get—
Leslie [00:09:08]:
because Benji's— I'm like, okay, there are Nephilim in the Bible, so I can get on board with that. Weird aliens that just like roam around and are on other planets, but somehow God forgot about them. I don't know, that's my— that's my stance.
Speaker C [00:09:22]:
But ASMR from Waylon.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:25]:
Waylon's giving us some alien— wait, okay, so, so go back in time because Me, Benji, and Michael are all from the South. They're from Louisiana. I'm from Texas. But Michael— I'm from Chicago. Unless he's from Chicago.
Speaker D [00:09:38]:
She lived there all of 9 months.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:41]:
Um, but Michael basically set Benji and I up.
Leslie [00:09:45]:
Yes.
Speaker C [00:09:45]:
Which I got Michael the job at the church.
Speaker D [00:09:49]:
Yes.
Speaker C [00:09:50]:
So I was kind of like, I got him a job, he got me a wife and baby.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:54]:
Wait, so, so explain, y'all's family knows each other from home?
Speaker D [00:09:58]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:09:58]:
Yes. So we live, what, 90 miles apart?
Speaker D [00:10:00]:
Yeah, like an hour and a half, 2 hours. Yeah.
Speaker C [00:10:03]:
And my parents have some college friends that they stay up to date with, and those college friends are friends with your parents.
Speaker D [00:10:13]:
Yeah. So Miss Tina.
Speaker C [00:10:15]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:10:16]:
One of my parents, one of my mom's best friends growing up was one of your mom's friends as well. And then So basically, one time I was in between jobs and I was living at home. It was during COVID and I got a call one day and, um, Miss Tina was like, hey, our friend's son is like working at a church in Northern, uh, Northern California, and, uh, they are looking for someone to come do video and whatnot. And so yeah, I ended up applying for the job and moving to California and then met Benji. And so me and Benji, I don't think we'd ever actually really met. We'd probably been in the same, like, birthday parties at, like, the Trost Players or something like that.
Speaker C [00:10:54]:
Same church services.
Speaker D [00:10:56]:
Yeah, same church services and stuff. But me and Benji had never met, um, but our families I think had at some point. But, um, yeah, so when I moved to here, I think Benji was, like, one of the first people I'd met. Um, and then, yeah, when Morgan ended up— me and Morgan started at Bayside on the same exact day, literally the same first day. So Morgan and I started—
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:15]:
I got a best friend and a boyfriend on the same day, and a housemate. Yeah.
Leslie [00:11:21]:
Yeah, not you, Morgan.
Speaker D [00:11:25]:
Yeah. And so, yeah, so me and Morgan started hanging out because we'd started the same day. We're both from the South. And then, um, sorry. And then, yeah, so we started hanging and then Morgan lived with you. So me and you started hanging and then we were friends for a few months and then obviously we started to like each other and all things. And so we started dating. And then I knew Benji on one hand and I knew Morgan on one hand.
Speaker D [00:11:53]:
And then Benji or Morgan went on a deer hunt one day and she came back and I hung out with Morgan with quite some time and Benji separately as well. And I was like, wait, I think that they could work. I feel like this could work in some weird way. Not a weird way, but I don't know. I never put the two together. And then I don't know who I texted, but I was like—
Speaker C [00:12:16]:
No, you came over to the house where we having a Mardi Gras party.
Speaker D [00:12:20]:
Oh, yeah.
Leslie [00:12:21]:
Yeah, we were having a Mardi Gras party, but you couldn't come.
Speaker C [00:12:25]:
No, we had, we had a Mardi Gras party at my house with all my roommates.
Speaker D [00:12:28]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:12:29]:
And I remember you, you were like, hey, I have a girl in mind for you.
Speaker D [00:12:34]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:12:34]:
Like, okay. And then you're like, I'm gonna show you a picture of her. I look great. And then you show me a picture of her with the deer, with the deer. And I don't even know if I saw Morgan in that picture. I was just like, oh my God, that's funny. Exactly. And then, uh Yeah, I think I— from then on we like started playing pickleball.
Speaker D [00:12:56]:
Yeah, and we used to play pickleball so much.
Speaker C [00:12:59]:
I know somebody asked me yesterday like, do you, do you play pickleball? I was like, dude, I used to, and that feels like 10 years ago.
Speaker D [00:13:05]:
I lost and everyone stopped playing.
Leslie [00:13:07]:
Literally, we play pickleball so much that my parents built a pickleball court at their house in their front yard.
Speaker C [00:13:14]:
We've used it like—
Leslie [00:13:14]:
and literally we stopped playing after that.
Speaker D [00:13:16]:
I was like, is it so much? Those two summers, for sure.
Leslie [00:13:20]:
I know.
Speaker D [00:13:20]:
Yeah. So that's what happened.
Leslie [00:13:22]:
Okay. I have a Louisiana question for you guys.
Speaker D [00:13:24]:
Let's hear it.
Leslie [00:13:25]:
What's something you guys grew up in Louisiana thinking that everybody else in the country did, but it was really just Louisiana?
Speaker D [00:13:32]:
That's kind of hard.
Speaker C [00:13:33]:
I guess one that I've noticed now is everybody calls the pacifier a binky here or whatever.
Leslie [00:13:41]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:13:41]:
But then in Louisiana, we call it a noony.
Speaker D [00:13:43]:
Noony.
Leslie [00:13:44]:
I've never heard that. Literally until you—
Speaker C [00:13:47]:
I didn't know that people Didn't call it that until I had a baby. I was like, grab his noony. And they're like, what?
Leslie [00:13:53]:
Well, Morgan texted us like when you guys were in Texas, and she's like, oh, Waylon and his noony. And we were all like, what's a noony? And she's like, I don't know, I'm trying to get on board with it because it's like a Louisiana thing.
Speaker D [00:14:06]:
It's so close to the word nook, which I've heard here. So I'm like, a nook? I've also heard— yeah, yeah, I've never heard that. Yeah, no, you know. Okay, yeah, it's another one that I feel like we'd call— we call it there.
Leslie [00:14:16]:
That's funny. So was your guys' like Louisiana experience like what in my mind I think a Louisiana experience was like? Well, okay, first of all, Michael has said that your area of Louisiana is not—
Speaker D [00:14:28]:
no, I said south of him. Is that— I know, uh, west of him. West and north.
Speaker C [00:14:36]:
Yeah, basically like where, where we live, which is if you're above I-10, yeah, you're basically Arkansas.
Speaker D [00:14:43]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:14:44]:
But okay, which I love.
Leslie [00:14:46]:
That's a bad thing, right?
Speaker C [00:14:46]:
I might be like 4 miles from I-10, so I just made it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:50]:
You made the cutoff.
Speaker D [00:14:52]:
No, you made it, you made it. Your school has a swamp in it.
Speaker C [00:14:55]:
Yeah, you made it. Yeah, it has alligators on the campus and everything.
Speaker D [00:14:57]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:14:58]:
Are you serious?
Speaker D [00:14:58]:
Yeah, yeah.
Leslie [00:14:59]:
You know, that's the craziest thing, that you guys just like lived around alligators. Did you know that they were dangerous growing up?
Speaker C [00:15:06]:
I, I feel like they're such just— I mean, yes, they're scary. But like you're, you're just around them so much that it's just like it's another day. You don't really hear about people getting attacked unless you're in Florida.
Speaker D [00:15:18]:
Yeah, Florida, they get cooked all the time.
Speaker C [00:15:20]:
They got some, they got some aggressive alligators over there.
Speaker D [00:15:23]:
To answer your question before, I was trying to think of something that was like not normal for other people. I remember the first time that we went on like a boat here. We were, I don't know, in the Sacramento River or something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:34]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:15:35]:
And we're getting pulled behind We're wake surfing. Um, and the first time I was in the water, I was like, it's so nice that you don't have to worry about alligators. Unless he goes, what? I said, like, like, we do this in Louisiana. Like, you get pulled behind a boat. It's usually like hydro, hydro, uh, hydro sliding or wakeboarding. And you're sitting in the water and I personally—
Leslie [00:15:55]:
on those airboats?
Speaker D [00:15:56]:
No, they don't pull you on airboat, but they pull you in a regular boat. It's a fishing boat. It's not like the super nice wake boats that are in California that like this the price of our house. But, um, yeah, so basically you're sitting in the water and like you can see gators. Like you're in the swamp and you're getting pulled behind boats and you're like— when you fall off and the boat has to come so like tag you and find you. Yeah, like you're sitting there and you can see gators or, um, garfish are another one that you see, which are like alligator garfish, or like fish with an alligator snout. And so the first time I was ever like wake surfing here, I was like This is so nice. I don't have to be like scared for my life right now.
Speaker C [00:16:32]:
So, and the fact that you can like see in the water where like ours is chocolate milk, it's just literally chocolate milk.
Speaker D [00:16:38]:
Like look up swamp people, chocolate milk.
Leslie [00:16:43]:
Buy you water, you could literally put your hand like probably like 3 inches in the water and you can't see your fingers.
Speaker D [00:16:47]:
Yeah, it literally looks like chocolate milk. Like it's crazy.
Leslie [00:16:49]:
So that's crazy. Yeah, what we went on when my first time to Louisiana I mean, Michael lives like where they film Swamp People.
Speaker D [00:16:58]:
Yeah, yeah, like I got banking. I went to school with people from Swamp People.
Leslie [00:17:01]:
Yes, like he lives below New Orleans, if you didn't know there was like a below New Orleans. Um, and I love the town that he grew up in, it's so fun. But we went on like a little alligator tour and those—
Speaker D [00:17:14]:
Cajun Man Swamp Tour, if you're ever in Louisiana.
Speaker C [00:17:16]:
What is it?
Speaker D [00:17:17]:
A Cajun Man Swamp Tour. Captain Billy. Captain Billy. It was so fun.
Leslie [00:17:23]:
We like held the fish or whatever it was, and the alligators would come and like take it out.
Speaker D [00:17:28]:
Yeah, he— in Captain Billy, he also like calls them, like he like calls them like a dog. I don't know if you remember that, but he literally was like—
Leslie [00:17:36]:
they're like his pets.
Speaker D [00:17:37]:
Boudreaux is like one of them that he's named. It's like an 8-foot alligator, and he knows where he lives and calls him. And literally, you'll hear him call him, and the alligator, you just see its tail swimming towards you. It's like— it's pretty crazy. But yeah, Louisiana is different. Different kind of place.
Leslie [00:17:49]:
It's a different— it's a different—
Speaker C [00:17:51]:
the best though.
Leslie [00:17:52]:
It is. It's the one place in the US I feel like you go to and you're like, I don't feel like I'm in the US anymore.
Speaker C [00:17:57]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:17:57]:
Do you ever— do you— did you ever bring people back and like, this feels like a different country? Like they say that.
Speaker C [00:18:02]:
I don't know, Morgan, did you feel that?
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:04]:
What?
Speaker C [00:18:04]:
That Louisiana is a different country? Uh, 100%. She, she said 100%. Why, why don't you come— why don't you come back and give us your— give us your opinion?
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:15]:
I'm going to, but I'm finishing something.
Leslie [00:18:21]:
She's asking what is your street name?
Speaker C [00:18:23]:
Which street name?
Speaker D [00:18:25]:
Oh, now everyone knows where your parents live.
Speaker C [00:18:29]:
If you're not good at spelling, which my family is notoriously not good at spelling, you literally have to just memorize what Cajun words are because they— none of them make sense. So like, chapatoulas. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, or like the trifecta, or like whatever. It's just like—
Leslie [00:18:46]:
that's a— that's an English word?
Speaker C [00:18:48]:
Yeah, but it's more Indian than, than it is like Cajun French. Uh, but it's just like letters don't— letters don't mean anything in like Lafayette.
Leslie [00:18:57]:
What's, what's your— what's your street name?
Speaker C [00:18:58]:
It's called Kali Saloon, but it's spelled like Kali Stay Saloon. And then it's just like— it's crazy. It's just words like letters are Dumbness.
Leslie [00:19:09]:
It's great. Like, even when I remember going there, his mom used to call, call me and other people Shaw. No, Shaw.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:16]:
Shaw.
Leslie [00:19:17]:
Shaw.
Speaker D [00:19:17]:
No, I'm going to crack up.
Speaker C [00:19:18]:
And you think it'd be S-H-A, but it's C-H-E-R. Yeah, Cher.
Speaker D [00:19:23]:
Yeah, yeah, that's how it's spelled. Yeah, baby.
Leslie [00:19:26]:
Yeah, I've always envisioned like S-H-A-W.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:30]:
That's probably why I say—
Speaker D [00:19:30]:
She kept saying Shaw.
Leslie [00:19:31]:
I was like, hey, she don't say Shaw. She's like, no, it's Shaw. Shaw. There's so many different words, and I love Louisiana though. It's so fun.
Speaker C [00:19:39]:
Which, like, I have a friend that makes fun of, uh, like, just our culture because they, they spell go G-E-A-U-X.
Leslie [00:19:47]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:19:48]:
And it's like, but it's like, why are there so many extra letters?
Speaker D [00:19:51]:
Yeah, just put— just also because you spell everything else.
Leslie [00:19:54]:
My biggest question is, why is there a baby in the king cake?
Speaker C [00:19:57]:
That's a great question. It's supposed to be Jesus.
Speaker D [00:19:59]:
Yeah, it's baby Jesus.
Leslie [00:20:00]:
Little baby Jesus.
Speaker D [00:20:01]:
Yeah. And it's just a game.
Speaker C [00:20:03]:
And it's like, it's— I mean, it's a Catholic tradition of, uh, which Mardi Gras is, I believe. I don't know, don't fact-check me.
Speaker D [00:20:10]:
But the, the point of the baby and the king cake is it's just like a fun game. I don't know why they originally started doing it. I can't remember what the reason was. But yeah, if you, if you have the slice of king cake with the baby in it, you have to buy the next one. So it's just like a fun thing. Yeah, it's like fine, like it's a fun thing that they do in Louisiana.
Leslie [00:20:26]:
Did you guys ever do anything crazy on Mardi Gras? When you were younger?
Speaker C [00:20:30]:
No, I've only been to New Orleans for Mardi Gras once, which like was very interesting.
Speaker D [00:20:37]:
Yeah, I would say—
Leslie [00:20:39]:
did you go to, um, what's the street?
Speaker D [00:20:41]:
Bourbon Street.
Leslie [00:20:43]:
Bourbon Street. Yeah, we went to Mardi Gras with two of our friends, uh, two years ago. That was an experience.
Speaker D [00:20:51]:
You had so much fun though.
Leslie [00:20:52]:
Oh, it was so fun, but I was like—
Speaker D [00:20:54]:
you know, Troy's top— in his top 3 favorite trips he's ever taken.
Speaker C [00:20:57]:
Really?
Leslie [00:20:57]:
Yeah, he talks about all the time. He's like, we gotta go back. I obviously, if you don't know about Mardi Gras, there's a lot— you can get beads, and you get beads by flashing people.
Speaker D [00:21:07]:
Whoa, we're going this way. All right, Mardi Gras can be taken at multiple— let me, let me defend Mardi Gras. We're getting us going. Uh, Mardi Gras can be taken at a very family level. Yes.
Leslie [00:21:16]:
No, I'm not saying that's the whole thing.
Speaker D [00:21:18]:
It's a story, worldly level.
Leslie [00:21:19]:
Yes.
Speaker D [00:21:20]:
And we had a great time at a very family level.
Leslie [00:21:23]:
Yes. But I remember putting like on my phone, we were up like on Bourbon Street in one of the, like, balconies. And you're just— there's flashing happening everywhere. So I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like covering Michael's eyes.
Speaker D [00:21:37]:
Really? Not that much.
Leslie [00:21:38]:
And then— and so then I write on my phone because guys obviously are coming up to me just being like, flash me.
Speaker D [00:21:45]:
And I'm like, so I don't remember any of this.
Leslie [00:21:49]:
So then I just put on my phone and I was like, show me your best dance move and then I'll give you these beads. And they're all so confused, but then they're like, well, they're actually way more—
Speaker D [00:21:57]:
what was really funny is that there was a next to her, obviously trying to instigate people to flash him. And then Leslie's here with her sign saying, show me your best dance moves, do not flash me. And he's over there like, pop off, lady, like, get away from me.
Leslie [00:22:11]:
I'm, I'm like, I was ruining his vibe. Unless he's just so great.
Speaker D [00:22:15]:
It was really funny.
Speaker C [00:22:16]:
Which, we got to take Waylon to his first Mardi Gras this year.
Speaker D [00:22:19]:
Oh yeah, the photo of him in his little outfit was so cute.
Leslie [00:22:22]:
I was cracking up at all of his beads in his bedroom.
Speaker C [00:22:26]:
He loves them. He loves looking at them. I don't know if he's He just likes the shininess of it or what.
Speaker D [00:22:30]:
But yes, that's super cute.
Speaker C [00:22:32]:
But Lafayette is a lot more friendly.
Speaker D [00:22:34]:
Yes.
Speaker C [00:22:34]:
Mardi Gras.
Speaker D [00:22:35]:
Yeah, almost very much like that as well.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:37]:
Yes.
Leslie [00:22:37]:
Oh my gosh. Um, okay, well, Benji, you're a father now.
Speaker C [00:22:41]:
Oh gosh.
Leslie [00:22:43]:
What is— you didn't know. Um, what is the most— how old is Waylon now?
Speaker C [00:22:50]:
He's 11 weeks. No, no, he's 12 weeks.
Leslie [00:22:52]:
12 weeks?
Speaker C [00:22:53]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:22:53]:
Why do I think he was older than that?
Speaker C [00:22:55]:
He's 12 weeks now because he looks like he should be like 13 years old. He's so big.
Speaker D [00:23:01]:
He has a wife.
Leslie [00:23:01]:
What is the most— what's the thing that surprises you the most about being a dad now, or just like the whole experience? And what's something that you're like, oh, this is actually better than I thought it would be?
Speaker C [00:23:16]:
Um, I think we've been really blessed with an easy baby. So like, he's, you know, 12 weeks old and he's sleeping, you know, last night he slept 7 hours, which is great. So that's been easier, but I think that's just our experience. Um, what was the other question?
Leslie [00:23:33]:
What's been the most surprising thing?
Speaker C [00:23:37]:
I think the most surprising thing is how many people you talk to about, like, just like other women about like the birthing story, and just like you just hear so much just details that you never thought you would get out of this certain person. So, uh, I think that's probably the most surprising thing. Just like, you just hear— you just— yeah, you just get to hear some—
Leslie [00:24:02]:
sensitized to everything now.
Speaker C [00:24:03]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the other thing— yeah, never mind, just keep on going.
Leslie [00:24:08]:
Do you find yourself seeing other, like, people who have children, other girls, and you just are like, tell me your birth story?
Speaker C [00:24:15]:
It kind of happens. Like, the other day we were, uh, we're at dinner with all of our friends And there was a lady there that had twins and they were like, you know, 8 months old. And so she had one in the front, one in the back. And then I pointed to one of our friends like, dang, she's doubled up. And then she saw me say that. And then so she walked over and then we had like a 15-minute conversation about just like babies. And I'm like, this is in the door. This is a— this is just crazy that like we're here.
Leslie [00:24:43]:
Yes.
Speaker D [00:24:44]:
Yeah. If you told me like a year ago, Benji's over here talking to a mom doubled up with a baby, just having a conversation with her.
Speaker C [00:24:49]:
And the funny part about that is we had Waylon sitting on my left, and then we had our guy friend Ryan, who's been on this podcast, um, to my right. And I felt like I had to tell her that I was married and not to him. Like, yeah, my wife, she's over there in line. If you see her, look over there. Just because I was like, I hope she doesn't think that me and Ryan are a couple and we had—
Leslie [00:25:13]:
yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:16]:
Um, you guys both did— I was thinking about this question while I was over there— you guys both did something similar and maybe common for guys your age, but you both moved away from home and family in your mid-20s years.
Leslie [00:25:29]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:29]:
And you went to another state that was like basically the opposite of what Louisiana is like and kind of started like a, a life there. You went off on your own. And I'm curious, what was the thing that led both of you to do that? Yeah, to go off independently and like Uh, like what— I guess what were you pursuing?
Speaker C [00:25:53]:
Oh, uh, actually no, because when I moved here I thought I was just gonna move here for a year and then go back home and like start my career. Because I graduated college and then, uh, didn't know what I wanted to do out of college, obviously, because you go spend thousands of dollars on a direction that you think you want and then it's like not. So I came out here just to figure out how I could best help serve the church. And I thought that was production-wise, because I don't want to get up and talk in front of people or anything like that.
Leslie [00:26:26]:
He's like, we'll do this podcast.
Speaker C [00:26:28]:
Yeah. And here we are. Worst day of my life.
Speaker D [00:26:32]:
You're doing great.
Speaker C [00:26:35]:
And then thought I was going to be here for a year and then ended up being here for what, 6 or 7 years now. So I think I was searching for how I could best help serve the church and the ministry of God and Jesus Christ.
Speaker D [00:26:59]:
He's joking.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:00]:
We don't know what that means. I mean, we know what it means, but we didn't.
Speaker C [00:27:05]:
But I think I was searching for that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:06]:
His sense of humor is not coming through.
Speaker D [00:27:07]:
Yeah, but it's cool because I mean, here's your time to brag on Benji. What are you doing now with that? Like, it's crazy. Yeah, you moved here for that and God has done such— like, blown up that vision. Yeah, in such a large scale.
Speaker C [00:27:20]:
Yeah, I thought I was gonna go back home to my church that has 1,500 people.
Speaker D [00:27:23]:
Yeah. And now we get to— do you want to brag on Benji?
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:26]:
Well, I was just saying, not to mention the fact that you were doing oil before you moved here. Like, you went to school for mechanical, uh, industrial engineering. You were doing oil And then you moved here and started doing—
Speaker C [00:27:37]:
Yeah. And then now I get to like be in a bunch of rooms where, you know, Jesus is being proclaimed in like arenas and going to Asia next month. And then—
Leslie [00:27:49]:
Yeah, crazy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:50]:
And then Europe after that.
Speaker C [00:27:51]:
Yeah. So it's just like a really cool—
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:53]:
It's like God took a love for the church that was like more local and then kind of expanded that globally, which is cool because I feel like that's not what you— you don't move across the country with the mindset that that's what's going to happen. You move across the country for like a small idea, and then when you submit that to God, he blows it up into something, yeah, bigger than you can imagine. And I feel like the same is true for, for you too.
Speaker C [00:28:14]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:28:14]:
What's, what's cool about you, Benji, is like even just what you just said where you were like, I was planning on going back home to my church of 1,400 people and doing whatever. And what's cool is I see like with you, obviously you travel with you know, people like Elevation and all these different like big name things that are doing these like crazy things out in arenas and traveling and going to Asia and all this stuff, doing a ton of stuff that's really, really cool and really large. But I love that like— now Bayside's obviously not a small church, but I love that you still have a passion for like kind of that local church where you're like, oh no, with Bayside it's not like, oh, I made it here guys and I'm traveling to Asia and doing all this stuff so I don't need to be involved in like the church that I'm planted at.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:00]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:29:00]:
But you are choosing to like even work part of your time here and helping us. And you're like so passionate about every room you're in. And everyone's always like, all right, let's get Benji in here and let's like chat about what we're gonna do for like Christmas and what we're gonna do for all these, all of these events that we're gonna do here. So I love that you are like, my heart's still in like this, even though I know Bayside's not small. It's like your heart's still like, it's to help the church. Yeah. Totally, which is so cool.
Speaker D [00:29:28]:
You hear that, ladies? Get a guy who can do both.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:30]:
Yeah, get a guy who can do both.
Leslie [00:29:33]:
That's right, that's right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:34]:
But Michael, why did you move? When you— that wasn't even your first move though. You, you moved, you moved away from home.
Leslie [00:29:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:40]:
How old were you?
Leslie [00:29:41]:
A little— what happened?
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:43]:
Give a little—
Speaker D [00:29:44]:
like, all right, I'll make it very brief.
Leslie [00:29:46]:
Yes.
Speaker D [00:29:47]:
Uh, I moved when I was 19 to North Carolina. Um, I got to serve at a really cool church and worked there for a bit.
Leslie [00:29:53]:
Elevation.
Speaker D [00:29:55]:
I got to do worship, which is what I was really wanting to do at the time. So I got to serve that ministry and then kind of got into the creative space there. Just a very inspiring church, as Benji knows, that they are just doing really cool things creatively. So yeah, started dabbling in that and then ended up getting sick. I have Crohn's and colitis and it gets the best of me sometimes. And so ended up moving home for a little bit. To figure that out. And then after that move, I— there's not really a big— as you can tell from both Benji and I's stories, not a big creative space in Louisiana.
Speaker D [00:30:28]:
So if you want to do something creative, what, you have to kind of move out with their spelling of things. That's their—
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:33]:
all their creativity goes into naming stuff. The language is crazy.
Speaker D [00:30:38]:
Um, so I moved to Florida and I was a creative director at a house, at like a content house there, uh, for a few years. And then Got sick again, ended up having like a big health situation and God pulled me through it. And it was a— Yeah, I coded twice and things. And this was during COVID right? Yes, during COVID And so that whole thing happened and through a bunch of many miracles, God did this really big miracle in saving my life. And so after that, I was like, man, God, whatever it is you have for me, like my hands are open and my heart's open. And I really wanted to do something creative and with my hands and I dropped out of school because I hate school. And so I was like, God, whatever it is. And then that's whenever I got that call from Benji and I's mutual friend about moving to California.
Speaker D [00:31:25]:
And I was like, God, if this is it, then just make it clear. And he did. And it's really hard to move from your family, as you guys know. It's not an easy sacrifice, but when it's for what God has you to do and you're intentional with spending time with your family and whatnot, you make it work. And so yeah, I moved to California 5 years ago and have been doing stuff here since. And so yeah, it's really cool to see God's hand and the things that he's done in my life. And now I get to see what he does through my life. And so yeah.
Leslie [00:31:54]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:55]:
Two follow-up questions.
Speaker D [00:31:56]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:56]:
Number one, how does your family do? Do all three of you guys?
Speaker D [00:32:00]:
Yeah, we all live different states. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:02]:
So you have two sisters.
Speaker D [00:32:03]:
Two sisters.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:03]:
They all live in different states. How do your parents do with that?
Speaker D [00:32:05]:
My parents are such big advocates for us doing what we feel like we're called to do. They are literally the most supportive parents in the world.
Leslie [00:32:12]:
Poster— I mean, their parents, poster parents to poster child.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:16]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:32:16]:
For like how to like not only maintain relationships with your kids while they're far, but also like 100% supporting.
Speaker D [00:32:24]:
Yeah. Not all of that, which is so guilty. Not whatsoever in any way. And only doing things like we're going to, um, my little cousin's doing like a study abroad, uh, program in France right now. And so our family trip this year is we're all going to France next month. And so they do such a good job of just supporting us. Even my grandma who's getting older is still so supportive of what we do because she just wants to love us well. Yeah.
Speaker D [00:32:48]:
So they are like the poster parents for being just amazing parents to kids who have vision and whatnot.
Leslie [00:32:56]:
I remember asking her also, I'm not crying. I have really bad allergies and this eye is like. Watering.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:00]:
But emotional— I'm like, oh my gosh, um, I'm moved by Benji and Michael's stories.
Leslie [00:33:07]:
Um, no, but I asked— I think I asked your mom the last time I was with her. I was like, how are you so— like, I mean, you live fairly far from your kids, but you're so supportive of them and what they do. And, um, she said— she's like, it is really hard. She's like, it's not that it's not hard because they're all so close, but she's like I can't be mad at them for me raising them to be, yeah, like strong enough to like go move away somewhere and like develop a life somewhere and be independent. She's like, we raised them that way.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:40]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:33:41]:
So it's like, we did a really— I mean, she didn't say this, but I could say this— they did a really good job raising kids that were confident and felt like, oh, I, I want to go pursue my dreams and go live where I want to build a life and all of that. And so She's like, I can't be mad at them for building in something that's like we built into them.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:58]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:33:59]:
Which I think was so cool for her to say.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:01]:
Yeah. Gotta get my second follow-up question to that. Cause I remember you telling, you don't have to go into it, but I remember you telling us the story of your COVID, like flatlining situation. And you were really sick at a point where it was like no one was allowed in the hospital room with you. So you're literally by yourself. Yeah. You've, you flatlined twice. Is that what you said?
Speaker C [00:34:21]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:22]:
You fell on twice. I remember you telling the story of like your family was like driving around the hospital praying for you and interceding for you, but like not able to come in. So I can't think of a worse scenario. I'm a baby when I get like a cold, right? Like I question the goodness of God when I've got flu A and I'm thinking you've had like a lifelong battle with this really gnarly, like those two things you just mentioned, the two illnesses are gnarly things. So how, How do you, I mean, you love the Lord. It doesn't seem like you've ever wavered on that.
Speaker D [00:34:56]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:57]:
How do you reconcile all that?
Speaker D [00:34:58]:
Yeah, I feel like the biggest thing is, man, there was a time I did waver. I feel like I've wavered once in my life was during that time. I got sick for 4 months and I lost 80 pounds and was having the worst pains a human cannot have in a way. And so, yeah, during that time I definitely wavered. Not angry at God, but I was not— it was more of a questioning of like, God, like, why aren't— like, why, why am I being fixed? Why am I not seeing healing? And man, I think that through it all, from— I was diagnosed when I was 11 and I'm 28 now. And so if you don't have joy and the joy of the Lord, man, you really do have no hope. And I think that's the only thing that's really gotten me through all of it is like, if I don't have joy, what do I have? I have depression, I have anger, I have anxiety. And not to say I don't have anxiety.
Speaker D [00:35:47]:
I have medical anxiety all the time. Leslie knows, but I always have cancer in my head.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:52]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:35:53]:
I'm like, you don't, you don't actually, you don't.
Speaker D [00:35:57]:
But yeah, I think that, you know, there's only so much you can do with your body's health. And, but there's a God who's big enough to support you through that. And so, yeah, I think that through going through this for, I don't know, I can't do math in my head like that, 17, 15 years, whatever it is, that if you don't have joy, then you have nothing. And so keeping your faith centered on knowing that God can heal you, he's on your side. And also just knowing that, yeah, when I was in the hospital and I didn't have anyone there with me and I was surrounded by people with COVID and I was in a coma for 3 days and all these things, if I don't have joy, then I really don't have anything. And so just like holding on to the truth of that and also just scripture, it's really the only thing that got me through it. And so yeah, I think that just whatever you go through, it's keeping your head held high and knowing that even if you don't get there, like even if I was gonna die during that time, it's like I had such an amazing life, like even though it would have been cut short, like I was filled with such joy of the Lord that I was like, no matter what happens, like I'm just grateful I got to live the life that I got to live and And even now looking at it, like, I wouldn't take any of it back just because, yeah, I think they're just having— I know I've said joy like 15,000 times, but that's really the only thing that got me through it.
Leslie [00:37:17]:
From what I've seen that you have done really well through— obviously I didn't know you during the really serious part of it, but I've watched as like, first of all, it was like you were able to like feel, and even recently, like your health hasn't been the best. And I feel like you, you do fully let yourself feel kind of the emotions of some of that. Like, I don't think you try to pretend it's not happening.
Speaker D [00:37:43]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:37:43]:
You don't try to go like, well, this isn't that bad because someone else has it worse. That's the stupidest reason. Like that toxic positivity. Toxic positivity. Like that doesn't help. Um, so you let yourself feel that way. But I also feel like, at least from what you've told me, is especially during that time in 2020. Was you were like, I had a worship playlist that I would listen to.
Speaker D [00:38:05]:
Sad Boy Needs Jesus is the name of the playlist. You can look it up on Spotify. I'll put that in the show notes.
Speaker C [00:38:10]:
It's public.
Leslie [00:38:11]:
But you would listen to worship. Your mom was great at sending and reading scripture over you. I remember you just talking about, yeah, in the hospital, there was a time where I legitimately only had God in that room with me because your family's not there. No one else is there to help soften that. And so I think, I feel like you do that really well. Thanks. But also what I love is that I think the adversity part of your story has propelled you into like experiencing life more full than I think a lot of, like any of us do who don't struggle with that. Totally.
Leslie [00:38:47]:
Like to me, I think you go, because I know what it's like to almost, first of all, lose your life, but also live with like a limp in a way of like a health autoimmune disease that you're like, when I'm feel— when I'm feeling good or whether I'm not feeling good, I'm like actually gonna live this life to the fullest.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:04]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:39:04]:
And so I think I've been thinking about that a lot recently of people, you, like Christy, other people that I know who have just been walking through some like really not fun stuff to walk through, is like seeing the joy on the other side of it though. Not even on the other side that it's gone, but experiencing joy and then realizing how much joy can come out of those circumstances.
Speaker D [00:39:28]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:39:28]:
I just think it gives you like a love for life that's, that you wouldn't have if you didn't go through it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:33]:
Oh, definitely.
Leslie [00:39:33]:
So, yeah, I think you do that really well.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:35]:
The other thing I'm impressed by too is like, you have every reason to not do the things that you do. You know what I'm saying? Like if I had an autoimmune disease that like really affected my health and I'm, and I know for you it's like every day kind of looks different. You're kind of like playing it by the season, right? Yeah. And you have every reason to like hole up at home and not move across the country. And you know, it's like a lot of people, they go through things like this, they have these diagnoses and then they just like, they let that take their life away from them. You've almost done the opposite. You've kind of been like, okay, screw you Crohn's. I'm going to do all the things that I always wanted to do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:14]:
And I wonder how you find like, what's the motto behind that? Did you just decide like, I'm not going to let this steal my life or my joy. And I'm just going to do all the things.
Speaker D [00:40:23]:
Yeah. If you let it handicap you, you'll lose even more life. So why not? Hey, during this season, like right now, the past few months, I've told Leslie, I feel like the past few months have been such a wash for me, but it's like in the little wins that I can do things, whether it's right now, I can't go dive, like the things I love to do, but it's like I could edit the videos that I've not been doing for the past few months. And that gives me joy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:48]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:40:48]:
So it's like finding the little pockets of things that you can do while while you're down bad.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:52]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:40:53]:
And just being like, why give it the time? Like, when someone says something bad about you or whatever, it's like, why give them your, your energy or your thoughts of like taking something away from you whenever you could just use it as an advantage for something else, or inspiration for when you are feeling better, or whenever you totally have some, a different avenue you could put your energy towards?
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:13]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [00:41:14]:
Um, great. But yeah, I mean, that's, that's pretty much it. It's like just knowing that Don't let it take advantage of you. Yeah, take advantage of it when you can.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:21]:
So yeah, that's cool.
Leslie [00:41:22]:
Yeah, that's good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:23]:
If you guys could go back to your 16-year-old selves, knowing what you know now, all the skills and the things you've learned, what's one thing you would go back and tell your 16-year-old self? What's a piece of advice you would give? Girls are crazy.
Speaker C [00:41:42]:
So true.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:43]:
That's literally a daily, daily word for Benji.
Speaker C [00:41:47]:
Especially when you all get together, I'm like, dude, girls are crazy.
Speaker D [00:41:50]:
Leslie doesn't let me use the C word, if I'm being honest. Crazy. Okay, my bad. The word crazy.
Leslie [00:41:56]:
That's the crazy way to think.
Speaker D [00:41:57]:
She says whenever I can't call her crazy.
Leslie [00:42:00]:
Yeah, because when you call someone crazy, it's just like, you're crazy.
Speaker D [00:42:03]:
But sometimes I'm like, you are being crazy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:06]:
I'm fine with the word crazy until he looks at Waylon and he, in his little, in his little Waylon baby voice, he goes, your mom's crazy. And I'm like, we're not gonna do that. You can call me crazy in my face, but don't look at him and be like, I will say crazy.
Leslie [00:42:18]:
The guys in our small group and in our like friend group they are just experiencing all the— like, none of us girls shield them from any of our crazy sides. Like, they know— I feel like they know so much from like every aspect.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:32]:
Yeah, I'm like, man, the more they know, the less they know. They're like, just when they think they're figuring it out, they're like, I'm lost again. So other than girls are crazy, what would you go back and tell your 16-year-old self?
Speaker C [00:42:43]:
I would say that you have no idea like what's coming. Um, because, you know, and it's so funny how seasons can change so quick.
Leslie [00:42:50]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [00:42:51]:
But you have an idea of what your future, what you think your future is going to look like. And then, like, did I ever think that I was going to be doing lights, you know, or production ever? The answer is no, because that wasn't even like a thing growing up, uh, where we were. And kind of just like followed or walked through the doors that got open for me. But yeah, just you have no idea. Hold your plans as loose as you can because everything's going to change essentially.
Speaker D [00:43:21]:
That's great. That's great.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:22]:
Yeah. I feel like your story is the epitome of I'm going to hold my plans loosely and then I'm going to walk. I'm not going to question the doors that God opens. I'm just going to humbly walk through them. And then you watched as God got— God made, expanded and expanded. These weren't dreams that you dreamt.
Speaker C [00:43:40]:
It's never a dream.
Speaker D [00:43:41]:
Yeah, but watch God cook.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:45]:
Yeah, watch God cook.
Speaker D [00:43:46]:
Yeah, watch God—
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:46]:
let him cook. People still saying that?
Leslie [00:43:49]:
I don't know, you shouldn't ask me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:52]:
Like, I don't know. Wait, where are people still saying that?
Leslie [00:43:54]:
What would you say, Michael?
Speaker D [00:43:55]:
But, uh, I would say— I think something that, like, I, I did more often than, than now is, like, just say yes to a lot of things. Like, Even if it's an opportunity, say yes to it. Don't say no for you're tired or you don't have the energy or whatever, especially with your friendships too. It's like if your friends are wanting to be a part of your life and wanting to dive in, do what you can to be super intentional and just be a part of everyone's life. I feel like you look back at seasons. I just made a YouTube video and I said this in part of it is like, you look back at seasons, you're like, man, that was— you don't realize it. There's like that, you know that one quote that Andy's in the office? It's Andy from The Office. And he was like, I wish you could have told yourself you were living the glory days whenever you were in them or something like that.
Speaker D [00:44:47]:
And he's talking about like the seasons of The Office in the beginning. I think it's very similar to that. It's like, man, when you're 5 years in advance or, you know, even looking at the small group right now, in like 5 years, people will probably move and like, and people will be in different places.
Leslie [00:45:00]:
Everyone's staying.
Speaker D [00:45:01]:
But realistically, you look back like, that was the best small group I've ever been a part of. It's like, I should have done every single thing I've done with them. Yeah, I could have done with them. And so, yeah, just say yes and invest when you can invest because, you know, life changes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:15]:
That's really cool.
Leslie [00:45:17]:
Can we end on a funny question?
Speaker C [00:45:19]:
Is it funny?
Leslie [00:45:20]:
Yeah, I think it's funny. What is— and Morgan, you can— maybe you, you can have an ending question. I'll have an ending question, but I'm gonna make this— I'm gonna make this relationships themed.
Speaker D [00:45:33]:
Oh, I'm scared now.
Leslie [00:45:33]:
What is—
Speaker D [00:45:34]:
you have to answer. You have to answer whatever you ask. You have to answer too.
Leslie [00:45:37]:
Okay. What's the biggest ick, Benji, you have about Morgan? And what's the biggest ick you have about me?
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:43]:
Benji's like, how much time do you have? How much time do you have?
Speaker D [00:45:47]:
All right, I'll start. I'll start. I got one.
Speaker C [00:45:49]:
Dang. I'm like having to think.
Speaker D [00:45:52]:
This isn't necessarily an ick, but I'll start off with— I was impressed in this. Leslie can ask 3 questions. Benji will say part of the answer. Lessie and Benji was like, oh, like, what did I ask? And then she can say the two questions that she asked before. Your retention for remembering things in this podcast, 10 out of 10.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:11]:
100%.
Speaker D [00:46:12]:
But when in real life—
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:14]:
but when what?
Speaker D [00:46:15]:
But in real life, I can have a conversation with Lessie where she just asked me to answer a question, I'll answer it 3 times, and she's like, wait, what did you say? Like, what was that? Yeah, she struggles a little bit in the memory with listening whenever the phone's in the hand or when someone else is having a conversation and it's like it brings up something sometimes where it's like, Leslie, I did tell you that whenever you were mad at me.
Leslie [00:46:43]:
Sometimes I will ask you a question because I feel like, did I ask him this? And he already answered it.
Speaker D [00:46:49]:
And I probably had twice. On God, yesterday Hallie was helping Leslie with something. Leslie asked the same question 3 times. On the 3rd time, I said, Hallie, don't answer. I was like, she needs to have listened to you the first 2 times. And Hallie was like actively helping her. And I was like, Hallie, I'm so sorry. Like, this is just—
Leslie [00:47:06]:
she was so sweet.
Speaker D [00:47:08]:
She was so sweet. She didn't even bat an eye.
Leslie [00:47:09]:
I was like, no, she's like, apparently 3 times the exact same answer.
Speaker D [00:47:13]:
She answered Eric whatever 3 times.
Leslie [00:47:15]:
It's— Michael's like, Hallie, do not answer that again. She's like, it's okay, she's working really hard.
Speaker D [00:47:19]:
I was like, you have to make eye contact with her and like make sure she's paying attention to you when you answer this question.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:25]:
I will say, to combat that though, she has this crazy skill where if she's doing something else and you ask her a question, if she doesn't answer you right away, in about 3 minutes she'll answer your question. And somehow she stored it in her brain. And I'm like, I forgot I even asked that to you.
Speaker D [00:47:42]:
Leslie's so talented. She does so many things. I'm not— oh my God, you're so multi-talented.
Leslie [00:47:45]:
That's funny, Morgan.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:46]:
That's— it's a crazy skill. Like, I'm a lot Uh, it's like when I ask you something and you're in the middle of something else and you— it's, it's— I shouldn't have asked you while you were in the middle of something.
Speaker C [00:47:57]:
She's—
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:57]:
but I asked you and she's buffering. Has always said she's buffering. She's buffering. And then so she'll fully finish her thought and then like about, you know, a minute to 3 minutes later she'll be like, oh, and then she'll answer the question like it was, it was in line.
Leslie [00:48:12]:
My dad does that and dang that Apple's not falling far from—
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:16]:
No, but that's— I think that's a good trait because then some people just don't listen to people. You're like, I'm listening, I'm taking it in.
Speaker D [00:48:23]:
50%.
Leslie [00:48:23]:
Yeah, it's like— Yeah, it's like— I don't know what that is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:26]:
Yeah, also, sorry, this is a fight-related thing. Did she still not remember when your birthday is?
Speaker D [00:48:32]:
No, she—
Leslie [00:48:32]:
I know now.
Speaker D [00:48:33]:
What's it?
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:34]:
What is it?
Leslie [00:48:34]:
13th.
Speaker D [00:48:35]:
What's the year?
Leslie [00:48:36]:
1995.
Speaker D [00:48:41]:
No, 7.
Leslie [00:48:41]:
7.
Speaker D [00:48:42]:
You're 91.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:43]:
How old are you?
Speaker D [00:48:44]:
28.
Leslie [00:48:45]:
He's 28.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:46]:
That's a good year.
Speaker D [00:48:46]:
Yeah. All right, enough of mine. Uh, you're ick for me.
Leslie [00:48:49]:
No, Benji's ick for Morgan.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:50]:
Yeah, we're not doing it. We're just being positive.
Speaker D [00:48:54]:
What?
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:54]:
That's fine.
Speaker C [00:48:55]:
I want to hear Lusty's though. Um, I don't want to hear yours. I'm fine with not knowing yours. Uh, which, which she's supposedly given this up for Lent basically, but her addiction—
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:07]:
I gave it up just in general.
Speaker C [00:49:08]:
Yeah, there we go. But her addiction to this stupid game that she plays, Travel Town. What, how many hours do you play that a day? To be honest, sorry, did you? I don't want to brand you for something.
Speaker D [00:49:20]:
That's old Morgan. Yeah, old Morgan.
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:23]:
Several hours a day.
Speaker C [00:49:24]:
But just like, I miss it. I'll wake up at 3 AM and I look over and she's just, I'm—
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:30]:
I got town. The town's not gonna develop itself.
Speaker D [00:49:32]:
I told Leslie I wanted to see your in-game purchase number.
Leslie [00:49:36]:
Yep. Okay, I would love to know. I wanted to ask you, what's your in-game purchase money has Morgan spent on Travel Town?
Speaker C [00:49:44]:
Um, I, I—
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:46]:
before Monarch.
Leslie [00:49:47]:
What's Monarch?
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:48]:
Monarch is the thing that tracks all of our purchases, and it's on an app so we can see all of it.
Speaker C [00:49:52]:
Uh, but I, I had to look up one time and she spent like $40-something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:57]:
No, it was more. It was $69.
Leslie [00:49:59]:
Was it for a one time?
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:01]:
Yes.
Leslie [00:50:01]:
Or just like over the course?
Speaker C [00:50:02]:
No, just like 3 months. It was just like, I had to buy—
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:05]:
there was one weekend, there was one weekend where he was gone and I was like, I'm in a hole, I'm depressed, I'm pregnant, I'll just buy a couple more lives. $70 later, I've had a couple people come to me and be like, you've been playing this game for what, like 2 years maybe? No, I've been playing this game since COVID Yeah, what? No, well, I don't think you played it. Maybe 2021, 2022.
Leslie [00:50:27]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:28]:
I played that. It was when I was still living here, you were playing it still. So it was, I was playing some other game and then the ad popped up and I was like, that looks like my kind of game. Downloaded it and never looked back. I spend, spent so much time. But then the other night we did a prayer exercise.
Speaker D [00:50:42]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:43]:
And God was like, you're going to lose all this time with your son if you don't delete that game. And then I was like, I've never felt, I felt like it was very clear. So then I deleted that.
Speaker D [00:50:53]:
Did you delete the account or did you delete the app?
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:55]:
Just that. Can't lose all it.
Speaker D [00:50:57]:
Can't lose all your— Yeah, you're like the mayor.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:00]:
I was the mayor. They honestly should have paid me ad dollars to talk about it. And if they come to me after this podcast and say, we'll pay you some ad dollars, I'll have a conversation with God just to see where we're at. If we're still—
Leslie [00:51:12]:
God, you can't really mean it.
Speaker C [00:51:12]:
You have to be their number one.
Speaker D [00:51:14]:
I could be influencing all my fellow travel talk.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:15]:
I'm actually really impressed that that was your it because you could have chosen a lot more. Benji's very particular.
Speaker C [00:51:21]:
I tried to pick something that wasn't going to last past this podcast if I said it. So I think I did a pretty good job.
Speaker D [00:51:27]:
That's good. We'll stop there.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:29]:
That's good.
Speaker D [00:51:29]:
We'll stop there on a good note.
Leslie [00:51:30]:
And then you guys, you guys turn. Um, my ick about you is you care more about a photo. Like, you, you won't let me keep any photo on my phone that you don't think that you look good in.
Speaker D [00:51:45]:
This is true.
Leslie [00:51:45]:
I don't care if you have photo— like, we'll look at a photo and usually it's the girl being like oh, I don't like the way I look in that, can we delete it? That's Michael. Michael's like, I don't like the way I look in that, can you delete it?
Speaker D [00:51:55]:
But also sometimes you do that too, so like you can't say it's just me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:58]:
That's so funny.
Leslie [00:52:00]:
Most of the time we'll take a photo. Yeah, I'll admit that. I can't.
Speaker D [00:52:02]:
Yeah, I'll admit that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:52:04]:
Or—
Speaker C [00:52:05]:
oh wow, oh wow, taking liberties.
Speaker D [00:52:10]:
Nail them down, Michael.
Leslie [00:52:12]:
I would say like if you come over to my house now, I'm not like crazy, crazy clean. Like, I'm not like—
Speaker D [00:52:18]:
this is fine.
Leslie [00:52:18]:
I'm not like anal about things, but to me, I feel like I'm fairly a clean person.
Morgan May Treuil [00:52:23]:
Yeah.
Leslie [00:52:23]:
Michael has in his head that he is so much like of a cleaner person than I am. Yeah. We're in the car, I'll do it, we'll put a video, take a piece of trash and just like—
Speaker D [00:52:32]:
like, yeah, but I throw it away.
Leslie [00:52:37]:
Okay, so then Michael judges me. He's like, Leslie, you really gotta like clean. Like, I'm like I, I am clean.
Speaker D [00:52:45]:
My closet, clean, and the trunk of my car are the two things that I do let get a little dirty.
Morgan May Treuil [00:52:52]:
That's so—
Speaker D [00:52:52]:
but I still do clean them often. It's like common spaces with you though, in your car.
Morgan May Treuil [00:52:57]:
What? I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm saying yes. I feel like you've ever— you, I mean, you have a way cleaner car than I do.
Leslie [00:53:06]:
Yeah, not hard though.
Morgan May Treuil [00:53:08]:
Not hard to have clean.
Speaker D [00:53:08]:
It's definitely, it's definitely cleaner than My front seats, my front seats and my back seat are clean. It's the trunk. It's the trunk. It's the only thing.
Leslie [00:53:15]:
I don't care if you leave your car a mess or whatever. It's the fact that you judge me for doing something.
Speaker D [00:53:20]:
I think it's the surfaces.
Morgan May Treuil [00:53:22]:
You do too. There is—
Leslie [00:53:23]:
that's my—
Morgan May Treuil [00:53:24]:
yeah, that's good.
Leslie [00:53:25]:
That's my biggest qualm, as someone would say.
Morgan May Treuil [00:53:28]:
I like it. All right, Morgan, I'm trying to think about what you'd be okay with me saying.
Speaker C [00:53:32]:
I'm fine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:53:33]:
You're fine?
Speaker D [00:53:34]:
Yeah, go ahead, lay it on bungee.
Morgan May Treuil [00:53:36]:
I mean, let her rip is, uh, the shoes, the shoes that you see Benji wearing right now are the only pair of shoes that he wears. Actually, that's not true. He wears these and then his indoor shoes are his Crocs. And, but these are the only shoes that he wears outside of the house. These are also the shoes that he, we got him for his wedding day to wear.
Speaker C [00:54:01]:
No, no, no. There's, there's been one iteration. Since.
Morgan May Treuil [00:54:03]:
Okay, so but basically this same shoe has been on his foot for 2 years, and then the next time he'll get a new pair of shoes is when we buy the exact same pair of Air Force Ones. Before he did Air Force Ones, he had New Balances that I had to throw away when they were literally like depreciating across off of his foot. They were literally disintegrating off of his foot. And then I had to convince him by pulling teeth that he could try Air Force Ones. So the ick is that this pair of shoes is on his feet at all times, 24/7. That's kind of icky. But also he has to be convinced over long periods of time to try a new item of clothing. But then once he tries it and he likes it, he wears it every single day.
Morgan May Treuil [00:54:54]:
Yeah. So it's like, I'm just consistent. I'm sorry that I'm so consistent that like my other one, he has the best hair.
Speaker D [00:55:01]:
So they got two and we only got one.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:04]:
I'm just gonna point that out. They both got two.
Speaker C [00:55:05]:
I think I want you to add one in.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:06]:
Okay. He has the best hair in the whole world. And sometimes when he puts his hat on, he has a little swing bang that comes down on his face.
Speaker D [00:55:16]:
A little, a little.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:17]:
But it's not like, it's not like across the whole thing. It's just like one little.
Leslie [00:55:21]:
One side.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:22]:
It's like when we used to get those haircuts with like one swing bang.
Speaker C [00:55:27]:
I had like bangs.
Speaker D [00:55:27]:
Hey, that's—
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:28]:
wait, what was your second one?
Leslie [00:55:30]:
I have bought— I've re-bought Air Forces over and over because they are the most comfortable shoe.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:33]:
Are they the only shoe that you wear?
Leslie [00:55:35]:
No, but for a while, for a year, they were. Yeah, genuinely.
Speaker C [00:55:38]:
I just, I just don't like to— they were really good. I just don't like to think about it. Like, I don't want to waste time going, oh, what shoes don't— uh, does it— it's like, no, just freaking— you have one pair.
Speaker D [00:55:48]:
Yes, that's it.
Leslie [00:55:49]:
Yeah, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:50]:
What was your second one?
Speaker C [00:55:51]:
My second one is that you wear your outside clothes in the bed.
Morgan May Treuil [00:55:55]:
Oh yeah, he's a big—
Leslie [00:55:57]:
he's a big—
Speaker C [00:55:59]:
it makes me want to vomit.
Speaker D [00:56:01]:
That's pretty gross.
Leslie [00:56:03]:
But like, after the sheets thing, Morgan did walk up today in her outfit and she goes, I wore these sweats to bed last night.
Speaker C [00:56:10]:
Yeah, I'm totally— I'm totally fine with her wearing her inside clothes outside, but it can't come back in.
Speaker D [00:56:17]:
Yes. And in the— and in the bed.
Morgan May Treuil [00:56:19]:
Yeah, he's a big like You know, like, yeah, like you can't, you can't bring your outside-ness into the—
Speaker C [00:56:26]:
I've turned into a full germaphobe, and that's where like the indoor shoes comes in, of like, I can't imagine just like people walking around all— especially California where there's homeless people just defecating wherever they want to.
Speaker D [00:56:41]:
This is true.
Speaker C [00:56:43]:
Um, which that— yeah, we have a story about that that's really funny. Um, and walking into their house and they just put their shoes all over the floor and I'm just like this, I'm— I want to vomit.
Leslie [00:56:54]:
Wait, you don't like when we put our shoes even on the floor in your house by the front door?
Speaker D [00:56:59]:
No, that's fine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:57:00]:
That's where there's— there's to go.
Speaker C [00:57:01]:
Okay. Yeah, there's a little— there's a little pad that you can do. Like even yesterday I had to run into the house to go grab something and Whalen's room and like leave instantly and I literally took off my shoes because I'm just just like— I, I thought about just wearing it and I was like, that's— that goes—
Leslie [00:57:17]:
that actually is so true. Just like, like if you really think about it, it's pretty gross. That is pretty gross.
Speaker D [00:57:22]:
I never think about that with his hands.
Morgan May Treuil [00:57:24]:
Well, not even that, it's just like when he starts, I think we'll get like really, really strict about it.
Speaker C [00:57:27]:
And then we have another friend which Jake has been on this podcast too, but he'll come into my house and he'll put his shoes on my couch and I will—
Speaker D [00:57:33]:
he did that. He literally had a footprint on Leslie's couch on her white shoes.
Leslie [00:57:36]:
Why have we never talked about this on the podcast?
Speaker C [00:57:38]:
Which is insane. His shoes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:57:40]:
And I'm like, which Jake lived with us for like a short time while he was in between places.
Leslie [00:57:46]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:57:46]:
And him and Benji used to absolutely go to war about his— oh yeah, like, yeah, those kinds of things. His feet were everywhere, his shoes were everywhere. It was bad.
Leslie [00:57:55]:
I bought a brand new white couch. I have a photo. I bought it off Facebook Marketplace, but it was pristine white.
Speaker D [00:58:03]:
Yeah, the other person didn't sit in it.
Leslie [00:58:05]:
I invite all our friends over, and I'm not— I don't care about shoes in the house really. Maybe I will now, but I think it was on the second day.
Morgan May Treuil [00:58:10]:
It was literally your— it was your come see my new couch.
Leslie [00:58:12]:
Come see my new couch. Yeah, we're all hanging out watching a movie. Jake literally barefoot puts up— like, he's like— somehow we're all sitting on the couch, but Jake can like—
Speaker D [00:58:22]:
he's upside down.
Leslie [00:58:22]:
It's a sprawl. So he puts his foot like up against the, the back cushion of the couch, like where you lean your back on. And the next day I didn't really think about much about it, but then I think you said something. You're like, Jake, get your feet off Leslie's brand new couch. Now if you know Jake, I feel like he used to be a flip-flop wearer.
Speaker C [00:58:40]:
Yeah, he used to wear his rainbows.
Leslie [00:58:42]:
And the rainbows, like, have— there's like nothing on the bottom, so it's just like bare feet on them.
Morgan May Treuil [00:58:47]:
Yeah, we throw them away. There's holes in them.
Leslie [00:58:48]:
Yeah, we have a photo. There is a footprint, a black footprint, on my brand new white couch.
Morgan May Treuil [00:58:55]:
Yes.
Leslie [00:58:55]:
And I wanted to kill him.
Speaker D [00:58:57]:
But your couch is— what was the sports material you were so stoked on?
Leslie [00:59:01]:
What do they call that when that couch is like—
Speaker D [00:59:03]:
you said it like a thousand times when you first got Performance. It's performance fabric. It's fabric.
Morgan May Treuil [00:59:08]:
It's just going to wash out.
Leslie [00:59:09]:
It came right out. It came out.
Morgan May Treuil [00:59:11]:
It washed out.
Leslie [00:59:11]:
I almost killed him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:59:11]:
That was so good. Yeah, man. Um, my last question, I don't know if you're going to have an answer to it, but, um, what do you feel like, what do you feel like young men these days don't do that they should be doing?
Leslie [00:59:28]:
Hmm. With anything in life.
Morgan May Treuil [00:59:29]:
Anything in life. It could be relationally, it could be work-wise, it could be work ethic, it could be like Yeah, yeah, like this next generation. It's not your generation, but the one underneath you.
Speaker C [00:59:38]:
Oh, we're all, we're all just screwed. Just like his, like Waylon's generation is toast. Yeah, just like with the—
Morgan May Treuil [00:59:47]:
it's just not positive.
Speaker C [00:59:47]:
Just all the AI coming out, which is crazy.
Leslie [00:59:50]:
Oh yeah, they are toast.
Speaker D [00:59:51]:
It's a hard one.
Morgan May Treuil [00:59:53]:
So what, what are they not doing that you're like, bro, do this, get up and do this?
Speaker D [00:59:58]:
No, I'm like, I think I don't know if you have a relationship with your mom. Doesn't sound cheesy, but it's like, love the females in your life. Like my sisters and my mom. I feel like I'm such a better communicator because I loved my, my sisters and my mom really well.
Leslie [01:00:13]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [01:00:13]:
And like making sure I have a good relationship with them and I can communicate with them. I don't know, I feel like that having the, the relational equity to communicate with females, I feel like is such an important thing.
Morgan May Treuil [01:00:24]:
Yes.
Speaker D [01:00:24]:
I feel like a lot of people don't really do that well. Like, not don't do that well, but the younger generation is probably less worried about having to do that with— they just didn't— they have their boys and have their boys.
Morgan May Treuil [01:00:33]:
Yeah.
Speaker D [01:00:34]:
And then I see videos of them on TikTok, just like crazy, like on the street stuff. I'm just like, yeah, you shouldn't probably talk to anyone like that, but specifically women. And so like, I don't know, have a good relationship with your parents and your mom and your sisters if you have them, because I feel like it just helps you in life. Like, not— you don't even have to like love them well. You should love them well, but like, yeah, I don't know, this to help you in the long run.
Morgan May Treuil [01:00:53]:
Treat them well. Learn from those relationships.
Speaker D [01:00:56]:
Yeah, it'll help you definitely in the long run. Oh yeah, that's very serious.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:00]:
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker C [01:01:02]:
I literally have nothing.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:03]:
I don't know, go out there and shoot a deer.
Speaker C [01:01:05]:
Yeah, go, go freaking get a deer, man.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:08]:
Be outside.
Speaker C [01:01:09]:
Stop being little girls.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:10]:
Which is funny because I would tell them— which is funny because you have an inside job, but every chance you get, you go out.
Leslie [01:01:16]:
Yes, that is funny.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:17]:
So like, it feels like—
Speaker C [01:01:18]:
well, it's beautiful, especially out here in California.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:20]:
I mean, that's like the number one way that you experience God probably is in nature. And a lot of boys are just like inside.
Speaker C [01:01:26]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:27]:
Playing video games, which is not a bad thing.
Speaker D [01:01:29]:
I play Fortnite.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:31]:
But you do. But you don't do that 24/7.
Speaker D [01:01:34]:
It's a— I'm staying up too late doing it. It's like a late night thing.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:37]:
If it's your late night thing.
Speaker D [01:01:38]:
With the boys.
Leslie [01:01:39]:
With the boys.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:39]:
Community. It's community.
Leslie [01:01:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [01:01:41]:
It's whatever.
Speaker C [01:01:42]:
I would give one advice kind of piggybacking off of what Michael was saying though, is the way that you treat your mom is the way that you're going to treat your wife. And that. So, and my mom used to say it all the time, like, is this how you're going to talk to your wife? I'm like, no, Mom, shut up, I'm not gonna do that. And then, and then once you get married, uh, you have to like really fight that because you've, you've conditioned yourself to talk to, you know, someone that you, you really love, you know, and protects you and, you know, all that stuff.
Speaker D [01:02:12]:
Yeah.
Speaker C [01:02:12]:
Um, so yeah, that's good. The way you treat your mom is the way you're gonna treat your spouse.
Leslie [01:02:15]:
Yeah. Um, yeah, that's good.
Morgan May Treuil [01:02:18]:
We talk a lot about like the safe— like your, your safe people typically get the worst version of you, so you have to like pause that train of thought and be like, actually, my safe people need the best version of me.
Speaker D [01:02:28]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [01:02:28]:
So I have to like adjust that, but that takes work because it's easier to—
Leslie [01:02:32]:
that's good. I like that.
Morgan May Treuil [01:02:34]:
Are you our timer that this podcast—
Speaker D [01:02:37]:
you said it's sounding good.
Speaker C [01:02:37]:
Time to go.
Morgan May Treuil [01:02:38]:
Done. Honestly, he said this conversation has lost its— lost its intrigue for me.
Leslie [01:02:44]:
Oh, thanks you guys for coming on.
Speaker D [01:02:45]:
Thanks for having us.
Morgan May Treuil [01:02:46]:
Y'all were way more wise than I thought.
Speaker D [01:02:48]:
Thank you for doing this.
Leslie [01:02:50]:
I know, but you guys, Benji was— had his backpack almost out the door and we were like, sit down. We literally basically—
Speaker D [01:02:56]:
I'm not doing it if you're not doing it, Benji.
Morgan May Treuil [01:02:57]:
I'm proud of us because we handled that the exact right way. If we'd done any more or any less, we wouldn't—
Leslie [01:03:02]:
You left me for a moment and I got a little nervous.
Morgan May Treuil [01:03:04]:
I was like, wait, Waylon needed to eat and he was not gonna be able to.
Leslie [01:03:09]:
Yeah, he was not gonna hang.
Morgan May Treuil [01:03:11]:
He waits for nobody.
Leslie [01:03:13]:
No, thank you guys. And Benji you need to come back on because I want to talk about you and Morgan's story at some point. So I'm just dripping this now because I would like— because I think a lot of people would resonate with it.
Morgan May Treuil [01:03:23]:
So it's like, sorry, I can't.
Leslie [01:03:24]:
We'll just tease that. Maybe next year, going to Asia, going to, uh, how about a year from now? We'll do that.
Morgan May Treuil [01:03:29]:
No, but it is a good— like, for the all— for all the people that are like, they get— they, they're, they're scared of crossing over into that like whole marriage thing. Oh, I don't want to get married.
Leslie [01:03:44]:
I want to love my mom forever.
Morgan May Treuil [01:03:46]:
No, he's never— yeah, he's married to his mom. Oh, sorry, not like literally, but emotionally.
Speaker D [01:03:53]:
All right, well, that's Am I Doing This Right? this week. Thank you for joining us.
Leslie [01:03:57]:
We'll see you next time.
Morgan May Treuil [01:03:59]:
Yeah, bye-bye.