Am I a bad mom if I don’t feel ready for the baby?
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Am I a bad mom if I don’t feel ready for the baby?

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:00]:
Okay. Welcome back to Am I Doing this? Welcome back. This is going to be a rapid fire episode. So for those of you who hate the yap and want to get to.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:07]:
The point, this is your episode.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:08]:
Ready, set, go. I'm just kidding.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:11]:
Okay. I. We're gonna yap still, but yeah, we are gonna yap. Do you have another. Do you have an unpopular opinion?

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:17]:
Just full of them today.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:19]:
Great. Give it to me.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:22]:
I actually don't. Oh, my un. Well.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:26]:
No, it's too controversial.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:29]:
I have a kind of a controversial one.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:30]:
Go ahead. That's scary.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:33]:
This is going to be like a. This is gonna be a potty humor one.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:35]:
I love a potty humor one.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:38]:
I don't think you have to wash your hands after the bathroom if you're at home.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:42]:
I was just thinking about this.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:45]:
Really?

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:46]:
How do you flush?

Leslie Johnston [00:00:49]:
I mean, just.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:50]:
Do you use your finger?

Leslie Johnston [00:00:53]:
I mean, I would. I. I don't know what else.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:55]:
I started using a knuckle and then I feel no need to wash my hands afterwards.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:02]:
I just think at home it's like, this is my space. It's just.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:06]:
They're all my things.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:07]:
They're all my.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:07]:
Everything here is mine. Everything that's scattered about the room. Which when I.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:11]:
When I think about it deeper, I think maybe it is gross. But like, I don't.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:17]:
Marriage will change that because all of a sudden you've got someone else completely out of control in your space and all of are now your things. And you're like, yeah, this is not it.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:26]:
Yeah. Mixing. Yeah. Just everything.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:28]:
But still, sometimes I'll still use the knuckle method and be like.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:31]:
And be like. Sometimes I'll wash my hands at home. I don't want to say, like exclusively. Don't. I just don't think it's. I don't think it's as necessary.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:38]:
Yeah. Or I would judge no one clean. I'll be like, whatever. In a public place, always wash my hands. Always.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:44]:
Oh, if I'm at someone else's house most of the time, I'll wash my hands.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:48]:
Like at the Lugos last night, their house is so clean. I'm like, there were. And I was also. I was going to the bathroom. I'm going to bathroom so much right now. Now, speaking of pregnancy.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:57]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:57]:
That I'm like, if I wash my hands every time I went to the bathroom, my hands would be as dry as Sahara. And they already kind of all.

Leslie Johnston [00:02:03]:
Yeah. So I would like my tax dollars to go towards better hand soap in the airports.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:10]:
Ooh, this is a. This Is a good. Take their soap.

Leslie Johnston [00:02:14]:
Like, Christy will bring her own soap to the airport.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:18]:
What?

Leslie Johnston [00:02:19]:
She will bring a tiny little hand soap. Because if you wash your hands, like two times in an airplane bathroom or an airport bathroom, your hands are like Sahara desert.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:28]:
You know how I know you don't fly Delta? Because Delta has a soap brand called the Alchemist. It's very good for your hands. And in both of their bathrooms. Sorry, both plane bathrooms and the lounge bathrooms, they have a lotion that's also from the Alchemist brand that is in the bathrooms. Like in a regular non first class bathroom.

Leslie Johnston [00:02:51]:
I love that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:52]:
I'm like, that is some good customer service.

Leslie Johnston [00:02:54]:
That is some good service.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:55]:
My hands are not going to be so dry because I agree with you. Airport bathrooms are the worst. It's crazy that Christie brings her own soap, though.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:01]:
Yes. Honestly, I need to get. I'm thinking about that. I'm like, I'm going on a plane tonight. I need to get some soap. Okay. I want to ask you. We are nearing the end of your pregnancy.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:10]:
We might already be there by the time that this. Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:13]:
By this error. You might, like, have a baby already. But I think that someone's like, first pregnancy is always so interesting because I feel like people learn. So like you. You think about, oh, when I'm pregnant someday, what will it be like? Or maybe certain people don't. But so I have some. I have some questions for you to kind of wrap up this era.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:34]:
Ooh, what the era?

Leslie Johnston [00:03:38]:
What's the craziest old wives tale? Someone has told you.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:47]:
That.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:49]:
Which. This might not be a wives tale.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:52]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:52]:
Is it wise or. Wives, Wives, wives. This might be real.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:56]:
Okay.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:57]:
But it's the castor oil thing.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:59]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:59]:
That if you drink castor oil or you put it in your belly button, that it will, like, trigger.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:04]:
Trigger labor.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:04]:
Labor.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:05]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:06]:
But I. Multiple castor oil and they've gone into labor.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:10]:
Yes, but I don't feel like it went that well for them. I think it might have backfired. Like, it was like, oh, this induced it. But, like, it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:18]:
It was too much.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:19]:
It was like too much. Like it triggered when they. I don't think maybe they weren't ready for it yet and then they had to get induced. It was like a whole thing.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:26]:
Yeah. That. That kind of scared.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:28]:
I'm also not a doctor, so don't.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:29]:
Take those kind of intervention things kind of scare me.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:32]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:32]:
We did the whole, like, you take a piece of hair and you tie a ring on the end of it and it shows you what did what? In like whatever way. It's the ring swings. I think it's like the gender circular.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:44]:
Is boy, back and forth, is girl. Something like that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:46]:
Because we did it right at the beginning of mine.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:49]:
I feel like it said it was.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:51]:
A girl, it was a boy. So that, you know, this is one that we did. But that's funny.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:57]:
Okay, what. What expectations did you have going in that turned out totally different?

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:05]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:05:05]:
Pregnant.

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:06]:
This is actually one of the things that I've been most secure about, insecure about towards the end. I've battled a lot of insecurity in pregnancy towards the end. My theory, in a way. Well, so, okay, the first trimester is really hard and weird because at least in my case, I was very sick and I wasn't really public about it yet because you're kind of supposed. People say you're supposed to wait until a certain time because pregnancy is unpredictable. So you're sick and you're not telling anybody, but it's all you can think about because you just got pregnant. And that's bizarre. Right? So you're.

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:44]:
You're analyzing everything. Nothing's normal, everything's foreign. So you think about it all the time, but you're kind of trapped in your own head. And that felt like something to kind of just like survive. So it's all you felt about, all you thought about, took up a lot of feelings and it was just cr. It was not the most fun. Like parts of it were not the most fun. Then the second trimester, for me at least, kind of turned into this really sweet spot where the nausea kind of subsided.

Morgan May Treuil [00:06:13]:
I still felt like I was me. You've got some exciting things that are happening, but it's not like you're seeing your baby every single week or you're feeling your baby every single moment. And I was surprised during the second trimester how much I actually kind of forgot that I was pregnant. Cuz you don't really look pregnant yet.

Leslie Johnston [00:06:31]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:06:32]:
And you don't really feel it. And nine months is a long time. Right. It's kind of like you find out something's coming, but then you have to wait nine months, like a year for it. So you're like, it doesn't really help me to get excited about this yet, cuz it's not close.

Leslie Johnston [00:06:45]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:06:46]:
And yeah, I could be preparing for all of it. But like, you don't even know what to prepare for because you've never done it before. I would imagine if you had a second kid, then at least you know what to prepare for. Right. Like, you know what to get ready. But then by the time you've got a second kid, you've got most of the things that you need anyways. So you're kind of like forcing yourself to get. Not to get excited or like, ready for something that you have no idea what it is, and you're just going off of what people tell you about it.

Leslie Johnston [00:07:10]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:11]:
That's weird. And I. I was surprised at how I kind of forgot that I was pregnant during the second trimester. And I think because I forgot about it, I kind of just like lived normally through the second trimester and paid no mind to it, really. And then now that I'm in the third trimester, that's when things start to get real because you feel very physically pregnant. You feel the baby move all the time. Like, I don't go, you know, I don't go two minutes without feeling him move inside me. So you're, like, constantly reminded that there's a person in here.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:46]:
If you're finding out gender, you know what the gender is. You're like deciding on names. You've had your baby showers. You've like, you've got the stuff ready, the nurse. There's like an impending date. Like, this is it. It's coming.

Leslie Johnston [00:07:57]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:58]:
And I am insecure now because I feel like every mom I know around me or who came before me or whatever. And again, this is a lot of this is like lies from the enemy. And I know that, but you still have to sort through it. The lie I believe is like, well, everybody is more prepared and has been spending time thinking about this, planning for it, preparing for it. They've got their birth plans, they've got their feeding schedules and sleep schedules, and they, like, know what they're doing. And I didn't really do pregnancy that way. And partially it's because I think that's my personality type. I'm like, not a huge over preparer or planner.

Morgan May Treuil [00:08:39]:
I've never been that way.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:40]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:08:41]:
But then the other part of me is, like, it kind of freaks me out to go to a place too soon that I can't be at yet because there's so much uncertainty. Like, it's one of those things where I compare it. I can't even compare. Like, I'm trying to think of, like, the things in life that you do for the first time as an adult. Because most things you do in life, you do them before you remember them. Yeah, right. Like you ate before you remembered or you ate before you had the ability to remember.

Leslie Johnston [00:09:10]:
Yes. You Breathe before natural.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:13]:
You just did it. It was scary because it was your first, but you don't remember that.

Leslie Johnston [00:09:16]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:16]:
So I'm thinking of, like, what are the things in life that you do that you remember that are scary? You go to college. Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:09:23]:
But you kind of forget the fear of that. And the way that you've prepared, like, it just, like, disappears out of your mind kind of.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:30]:
And I think most things that you do for the first time as an adult, for the most part, you can plan for them.

Leslie Johnston [00:09:34]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:35]:
And birth is one of those things that, try as you might, it's all like, up to God and how it goes. Like, I have no. I have no A due date. Doesn't really mean anything.

Leslie Johnston [00:09:48]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:48]:
Because it's subjective to when he wants to come or, like, how he comes and then all the stuff that happens afterwards. Like, we don't even know him. We don't know his condition. We don't know what he needs. Like, will he be a good feeder or a not good feeder? And so the problem for me and my anxiety brain is, like, if I can't plan for any of those things because I don't know them, then it's really hard for me to, like, live in that headspace of, like, possible preparation.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:15]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:16]:
Because there's so many ways that things can go.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:19]:
Do you feel like if you go down the road, of all the different options, do you think because of your anxiety, it's like, I almost can't go there because I am afraid of what I will feel if I go down all those roads?

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:33]:
100.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:34]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:35]:
Or that, like, it will make me not want to go forward and that's not really an option. Yeah. Like, you can't reverse.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:43]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:43]:
No, this is done.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:44]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:44]:
You know, like, this is happening.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:46]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:46]:
And I don't know what that. What that personality trait is where I'm like, I don't want to think through this fully until it's happening, because at least when it's happening, I'll have all my information.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:55]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:56]:
To make a decision.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:57]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:57]:
It's really hard to make a decision when you don't have any of your information.

Morgan May Treuil [00:11:01]:
Like, even, like, the whole birth plan thing. It's like, people spend all this time making your birth plan, and most of.

Leslie Johnston [00:11:08]:
The time you hear they're like, throw your birth plan out the window.

Morgan May Treuil [00:11:10]:
Right.

Leslie Johnston [00:11:10]:
Because it doesn't go that way. Yeah. Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:11:13]:
Or like the sleep schedule thing. I'm like, well, I don't know that we know what he will want or what he'll be like, you Know.

Leslie Johnston [00:11:19]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:11:20]:
And so I've started to feel really self conscious because I feel like the mom comparison thing started for me in the third trimester before the baby even came. And it was all about, like, preparedness. And I've been really hard on myself for that because it makes me worried of, like, I know this isn't true, but I'm being vulnerable about it for the sake of people who maybe feel this way. But you're like, does it make me less of a caring mom? Or like, is it. Am I selfish? Or like, do I love him less because I think about that part of life less? You know?

Leslie Johnston [00:12:03]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:03]:
I think a lot of it is like a coping mechanism for fear. And so. And I don't know that it's a bad one because, like, I could be just like white knuckling it and trying to control all of it and.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:15]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:16]:
Freaking out about things that I don't understand yet.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:18]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:18]:
Or you could wait until you know more and then do the best with what you have.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:23]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:24]:
But I have a lot of people around me who. That's not their story. Even, like, not even people who are walking through it. People who have walked through it before who, like, that's just not their personality type for sure. At all. And I think it's just very natural to compare yourself to other people.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:39]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:40]:
I just didn't expect for that to come as soon as, like, pregnancy. I didn't think pregnancy was something you would be comparing yourself to other people in.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:47]:
Totally.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:48]:
Which is weird. You would think, oh, it's when the baby comes in, they're all parenting side by side and you're like, oh, they're doing this better than me. Like, that's what I was expecting.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:56]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:12:56]:
But it kicked in way sooner than that.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:58]:
Or that mom guilt happens when she.

Morgan May Treuil [00:13:02]:
Leaves the baby out, right?

Leslie Johnston [00:13:03]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:13:04]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:13:04]:
Well, okay, a couple things that I've. Because I totally hear you, where you're like, this is hard. And I, you know, I think the enemy gets in there and he's like, ooh, I could, I could work my angle with this clear headed perspective. The clear headed version is that first of all, you're going first. You are the first one to have a baby in our friend group. You're the first one who's going through every stage of this pregnancy. Now there's other people that we know who have gotten pregnant, but you are, like the first one to do it. So what I think is really cool is watching you go first on it and being someone that struggles with anxiety and overthinking and all of that.

Leslie Johnston [00:13:49]:
I think you've gone through this pregnancy. I think God has protected you during this pregnancy. I mean, you've talked about how, like you've been pretty much panic free. Like, this has been a really crazy. Remember, like, when you talked about getting pregnant, I was like, I wonder how that will go. Cause you add like already being a highly anxious person, hormones and all that stuff. And I'm like, you have gone through this pregnancy so, so levelheaded. Like probably the most relaxed version of you that I've ever seen.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:22]:
Which is crazy. Which is crazy. And I felt that too.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:25]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:25]:
It's very out of. This whole thing has been very out of character.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:28]:
Yes. And I mean, you're always a level. The thing is you're always a levelheaded, chill person, but I think internally you don't live that way most of the time.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:36]:
No. Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:37]:
And so I think God has protected you during this pregnancy from a lot of that. And I think that, well, you've, you've done. I mean, to give you credit, I feel like moms don't give themselves enough credit. Even in pregnancy where it's like you're making all the lists for everything. You're preparing a nursery, like you're doing all this stuff. It's not like you're sitting around and you've done nothing to prepare. If you had literally like, no, there's nothing for the baby, whatever, then it's like, okay, maybe we hold the hands.

Morgan May Treuil [00:15:04]:
And let's, let's get some of these things. Let's buy something.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:07]:
Let's buy something. Like you have like we, we went over the other night.

Morgan May Treuil [00:15:11]:
Yeah. Which is so awesome.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:12]:
Which was so fun. If you're listening to this and your friend is pregnant, do the baby shower. All of that. But this night was so special because all of our girlfriends came over and we just prepped the house, we prepped the nursery. We put together the stroller. Washed bottles. We washed bottles, washed clothes. And it was so fun.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:29]:
And it was like, let's get our friend ready for this. So she feels like so excited and ready.

Morgan May Treuil [00:15:34]:
It was like the most confidence boosting thing. It. You know what it reminded me of? Sorry, this is tmi. Do you remember in my, at my bachelorette party when we. Yes. When we like, you get all this like fun clothing for her. Whatever. Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:15:47]:
Depending on how you feel about that. And we did like a try on thing. It's not BTMI for the podcast, but it like, it was a confidence boost.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:54]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:15:55]:
For your friends to like come alongside you and support you. And that's what this felt like. It was like, oh, I can be a mom. Because at least they all know. And we put Ryder, your dog, in the carrier. To. Ryan was the first to learn how to use the carrier. I feel like we should post a picture of that somewhere.

Morgan May Treuil [00:16:11]:
Podcast.

Leslie Johnston [00:16:12]:
Totally should.

Morgan May Treuil [00:16:13]:
Such. It was so fun and it was a great confidence instiller.

Leslie Johnston [00:16:17]:
Yes, yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:16:17]:
People should do that for their friends.

Leslie Johnston [00:16:19]:
Yeah. And so I just think you have gone through this with so much peace that God has given you that I think the enemy would be like, ooh, because you're relaxed. I'm going to start to make you feel like you're not doing enough. Or, like, I'm going to start getting in here and making you afraid that because of this gift God's given you during pregnancy, that this would somehow disqualify you from being a good mom. And I just think all those things are so untrue. Like, you're going to be the best mom. And I think this baby. You said this on your Instagram, but this baby, I think, needs a mom for whatever reason, because I do think God, like, pairs human beings up with their parents for very specific reasons.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:01]:
And not because that person is perfect, but because I think the wiring of that child and that parent is going to be a great pairing. Like, and there's going to be times where it's like, you're not going to be enough because God is the one that has to come in. Like, I think sometimes our helpful words to moms, and I'm not. I have. I've never been a mom. I mean, a dog mom, but it's, like, counts. I think sometimes maybe the things we say to moms to make them feel better of, like, no, you're a perfect mom. And it's like, you're not gonna be a perfect mom.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:38]:
But the good news is, like, God has already equipped you with more than enough with all that you need, and he's gonna come through on things that you lack in. And I think what a cool thing to show that baby as they grow up of, like, oh, no, I'm partnering with God. I'm partnering with my spouse, but also partnering with God on raising this child.

Morgan May Treuil [00:17:58]:
That's great.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:58]:
And that's such a cool thing for that kid grow up in. So I think, first, you've done so much, but also I think that's a gift God has given you. And I would hate to see the enemy make that look like it's a.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:11]:
Great point, because I didn't think you don't think about it that way. Like, sometimes you think about mom guilt or comparison, and then your. Your immediate thought goes to like, oh, my gosh, is God correcting me? But. But the thing that God's given me is peace. Right. And then I think the enemy is more so in the camp of like, okay, well, now that you have that, let me try to convince you that it's not enough or that, yes, it's not as much as this person. And when. When things sound like that, you can almost guarantee that they're not from God.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:37]:
If it sounds like you're not enough or you're not doing enough. Yeah. Or you're not doing as much as this person. That's. None of that's God language. Like, God will call you higher in things for sure. God will call you up for sure.

Leslie Johnston [00:18:51]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:51]:
But it never sounds like that.

Leslie Johnston [00:18:53]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:53]:
And I think that's. That's a great point to. To highlight. And you're right. Like, I. I kind of forget now that we go through it, of just, like, how much God has provided in terms of peace and security and safety. And you're right. I wonder if it's like, I wonder if God started to create something in me specifically for the type of boy he's going to be.

Leslie Johnston [00:19:15]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:16]:
Where it was like a full mellowing out. Yes. Even just during carrying him. Like, I wonder if. I don't know.

Leslie Johnston [00:19:24]:
Yep. So I. I think that's so true. And I think probably every mom thinking that no matter how prepared they are, I think they have those feelings.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:34]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:19:34]:
I think it's just like we always say, like, the enemy is not that creative. Like, he uses the same thing against everybody a lot of times in different seasons. But, yeah. I just think, like, spending. The enemy would love to distract you from preparing in the right ways for the baby.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:55]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:19:55]:
And I think you are doing that really well, like, preparing your own heart and preparing, like, I think that. I think it's more important probably to prepare, like, yourself to become a mom for who you are than like, oh, I make sure I have every, you know, potential option of a feeding schedule and whatever. Like, I just think those things are more important.

Morgan May Treuil [00:20:21]:
There was, like, two big, significant spiritual moments that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:20:26]:
That happened, and we can close with this because there's. I know we have to. We have to wrap. And there's, like, there's a practical piece to it also, but when Michael Metcalf did his devotional. Michael Metcalf's one of our pastors here, and he did it A couple weeks ago, and it was out of judges and it was a random military guy and it was all about him using his left hand versus his right hand. So the weaker hand versus the stronger hand. And the I'll, I'll butcher the exact points of it, but the idea being that God really shows up in your weakness. And that weakness is actually a great qualifier for ministry because it invites the presence of God to move in.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:08]:
Yeah. And I remember thinking he, he preached it to a room full of pastors, but I felt it the most deeply in my motherhood like, journey. And then even yesterday, your dad was preaching at our all staff meeting about burnout and balance and the illustration of Mary and Martha came up. That was yesterday, right? Mary and Martha. And I've always forget who does what, but one is it Mary?

Leslie Johnston [00:21:37]:
Mary does what's right.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:38]:
Martha is like, yeah, so Mary sits at the feet of Jesus. And then Martha is like in full preparation mode and she's, she's pissed at Mary because Mary is just sitting there, but Mary's actually doing the real preparation. It's to just be in the presence of God.

Leslie Johnston [00:21:54]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:54]:
And the amount of time that I've gotten the chance through this pregnancy to sit with God in times when like in a typical world, typical schedule, I wouldn't have it. This, this nine months has felt like spiritual renewal to me. Like, I will get emotional talking about what God has done through pregnancy because I feel like for me, on a personal level, nothing to do with the baby even, but like I've conquered fears I never thought I would conquer. Yes. I have found like relief from panic that I hadn't felt and make me cry I haven't felt in a long time. And it's like.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:35]:
It'S so funny because now I get to the end of it and all I can do is look around to other people and it feels like what God is saying is like, no, but look what I especially did in you. Like, you thought that this whole nine months was for somebody else. And yeah, like it is. But look what I did for you and in you. And.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:54]:
I think my, my advice to people, like the practical advice to people who are listening to this is I think comparison is unavoidable in life. It especially is made intense by media and like tick tock and your algorithm. The second that you say you're pregnant, it's like your phone, it's like your phone around you. Yes. You guys are getting scared about pregnancy from tick tocks that are showing up on your pregnancy. And just because I'm talking about it, and it's like. Like, all of that stuff, practically. It's like, you can do that for education purposes, but you're gonna have to figure out how to limit that, because it.

Leslie Johnston [00:23:29]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:30]:
It just isn't always the most helpful thing. But the practical thing I would say is, like, there is a preparation that matters more than anything else, and it's the preparation of your heart for the next 18 years that you're about to go through. And I wonder if I'm. I'm almost certain that after the 18 years passed, I will still say the same thing, that it mattered more when I got to sit with God.

Leslie Johnston [00:23:52]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:53]:
Versus when I got the stroller together in a timely fashion or whether his wallpaper was up or whether any of those things. So good and so really good. Yeah. I just. I feel so thankful, and I almost feel bad now about trying to make this last part about something. Like, that's. That's what the enemy does. Right.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:12]:
Tries to, like, steal the focus. Totally. But this actually was helpful in getting the focus back on. Like, whoa, what did God do? That was crazy. This is crazy. I'm different person.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:20]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:21]:
Crazy.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:22]:
It is wild. So I love that. Focusing more on the first of all the gifts that God has given you during this to almost show you, like, look, I will take care of you.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:32]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:33]:
Like, I think with anxiety, there's probably a lot of fear of being a mom and the situations that that brings and all of that. And it's like, God, for nine months is like, look how I took care of you in this. Like, I will take care of you for the next 18 years.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:48]:
So good.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:49]:
So I love that. Well, I'm so excited.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:51]:
Pregnancy to all boots. To all who celebrate and participate, and for those who aren't, I hope that that is something that you remember for when.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:00]:
Yeah. That's so good. I love that. Well, I can't wait to meet the baby. We can't wait to bring him on the podcast and put him like this, Simpa style. Put a little car seat right here.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:10]:
And he'll just bassinet. We'll just set him up right here, and we could just.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:14]:
Can't wait.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:14]:
If he's loud, we'll be like, Tesla. I'm just kidding.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:18]:
Can't wait to meet him.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:19]:
Or her.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:20]:
You just never know until you imagine.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:22]:
Oh, my gosh. I'd be totally fine either way.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:25]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:26]:
He would just be a. She'd be a Tom girl. She'd be a Tom girl. Tomboy. Yeah. I love that.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:31]:
Well, love you. You're going to be such a great mom.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:33]:
Thanks for that.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:34]:
Exciting.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:34]:
I needed the level headed friend perspective. So good. Okay.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:38]:
All right. See you next time. Bye.